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Trade Terrence Jones ASAP

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Beardaholic13, May 19, 2015.

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  1. Bobbythegreat

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    DMo is our best shooting PF which would have stretched out the defense while providing us some post offense. He can create his own shot in the post, which would have really come in handy when the offense started to stagnate.

    I know, for whatever reason, you can't see that, but most objective Rockets fans can.
     
  2. jump shooter

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    You act like a stubborn little child when it comes to you wanting to prove your point and its not worth my time in arguing with someone like you that won't be reasonable. You obviously know more about basketball than me and everyone else and I give up you win. Your 100% correct on everything and Morey should hire you as his wing man.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    Look, just because you have no intelligent response to my point that having a healthy DMo and Bev would have made a difference this playoffs is no reason to be upset about it.

    That said, since you aren't very good at this, it's probably best that you don't "argue" with me, and leave that to those who are better equipped to do so.
     
  4. basketballholic

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    BECAUSE


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    AND


    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/VlDNIDfSpMw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    SAID SO.
     
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  5. mercy road

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    Most people actually believe that playoff basketball is markedly different than regular season basketball. That may be true in the early rounds, but by the time the WCFs are played both teams actually play approximately the same way as they did in the regular season. They play great. There is no major difference in points scored, points allowed, fouls called, shooting percentage etc. in the WCFs than when the two teams faced off in the regular season. There may be a difference in an individual WCF, but when averaged over the last 20 or so seasons any difference is negligible.

    If you do not believe D-Mo would have made a difference against the Warriors small ball, perhaps you should be advocating for Morey to tear this team down and start over, because the Warriors are going to have that same core together for several more seasons and the Rockets opportunities to up significantly grade there current roster will only occur on the free agent market starting in the summer of 2016. It would be a reasonable but extreme position to take.

    Admittedly, Green should have won the DPOY. But D-Mo over the entire season generally just was unstoppable in the low post. There is also the defensive angle. Howard has never shown a willingness to cover the arc defensively, an area on the court that is one of Green's favorite spots to shoot from, Capela does not yet understand NBA rotations, and Smith and Jones were fairly ineffectual. D-Mo might have made a defensive difference because of his superior court awareness and speed. But then again perhaps not. But it certainly would have been a major talent upgrade if D-Mo could have played. He was, after all, a Rockets starter for most of the season.

    But as always I just speculate and offer my opinion. Like most here. No harm in that. Take it or leave it at your pleasure.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    To Green's credit, when DMo went against him, Green did a fantastic job of denying DMo access to the post which limited his touches in that area. Green is very good at holding position, but when DMo got it, Green was BBQ chicken pretty much like everyone else. That said, the defense and 3 point shooting ability shouldn't be overlooked.

    I'm not sure why some would dismiss the absence of one of the key starters that helped the Rockets manage the amazing win total this season despite all of the injuries, but it's not normal.
     
  7. jump shooter

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    Between you and _asketballhollic I'm ignoring you ok. Please don't answer to my posts when I'm not talking you and I won't answer to yours!!!
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    Nah. How about you just stop posting things you know you can't defend, and it'll work itself out. I'm going to respond to whomever I feel like responding to, if it bothers you that much, there's an ignore feature that will allow you to not have to see it when I shred your awful hot takes.
     
  9. jump shooter

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    Your a child
     
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    BECAUSE

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    AND

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7HpUCAVQoJY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


    SAID SO.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Well I've failed at teaching you basketball, maybe I can teach you English


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    You're an idiot

    Your basketball takes are awful.
     
  12. jump shooter

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    You got any of his playoff vids to show me genius? LOL. _asketballhoic do you not have a life other than constantly hijacking threads.
     
  13. mercy road

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    Sometimes it is just best to not engage. IMHO.
     
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    Anybody want to recall the thread that BBHollic and CXBBY championed for years about how the Rockets should trade both Jones AND D-Mo back in November of 2013 because they weren't "In the Rotation" the first week of the season, and they needed to "Trade them while they still had value" and start Casspi???? Now those same guys "Called it" that D-Mo was going to be this good?

    The fact that folks like Hollic are trying to act like they called D-Mo to be the next greatest thing is hilarious. People here have such ridiculous egos that their existence revolves their internet Megalomania.
     
  15. mercy road

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    Until management's assessment of D-Mo's health is extremely positive and Smith is resigned Jones is not going anywhere. While Jones is possibly not much help against the better power forwards in the NBA, he makes a great rotation power forward to bring off the bench or start in a pinch. His talent level is not replaceable for his $2.4M salary. Morey is no fool.

    D-Mo, and to a much lesser extent Capela, are not going to be traded IMHO. There is a small chance that D-Mo develops into an all-star. There is a large chance that he is already a starting caliber PF or center in the NBA. But of course there is that small problem of the season ending back injury. Oh my.

    Capela is just a stash at the end of bench, practice with the starters player, who could actually develop into a significant rotation player in the NBA. I have no crystal ball.

    It should be interesting.
     
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    Nobody thought he was going to be THIS good. We really missed him and Bev during the playoffs. We're a different team with DMo.
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    I see the DMo fans have resorted to Lin style arguments again.

    Hey, look a highlight video!

    Not sure why these folks need to make it a Dmo vs Tjones thing. We really needed both dudes last year.

    Depth is good guys. Look it up.
     
  18. dobro1229

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    Agreed. I think the predictions on draft night went anywhere from the next Dirk/Scola hybrid to a poor mans Bargnani (and that's not a good thing). The fact is nobody really knew, and nobody here is a fortune teller like they try to make themselves out to be... even in year 2 when him and Jones were fighting for PT against the likes of Casspi and small-ball in training camp nobody really knew how good or how bad they both could be even though there are folks here that are screaming the loudest about how "They Knew" when really 2 years ago they were screaming the loudest to trade them for next to nothing.

    The D-Mo that played like the 2nd best player for 1/4 of the season we definitely missed, but D-Mo also really struggled in the regular season against the Warriors and specifically the Green/Barnes matchup which kills most traditional PF's regardless. So who knows... the Rockets probably just need to be better defensively as a team to beat the Warriors, and slow down the pace as crazy as that seems. I think they are very, very close to them... its just style of play and execution more than anything.

    I really do think good D-Mo is pretty much exactly what this team needs at PF long term next to Dwight... well that is if he's rebounding which is his major flaw. Being able to be respectable from 3, give good positional D in the paint, versatility to play the 5 in small ball, and a tool to use in half-court post up isoloations... you couldn't pick a better PF/5 for us moving forward.

    That being said... My reasoning for trying to explain why the Rockets shouldn't just "Trade Jones ASAP" is due to the risk of D-Mo just going under the knife with back surgery, and Smith's pending free agency. Its NOT because I like Jones over D-Mo which is what CF'ers love to do (pick "their guy" and root against those who stand in their way just so they can be right). I like both guys in their roles, and think they both bring something to the table for the team moving forward.
     
  19. ROXTXIA

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    I think it's the same person, two accounts.
     
  20. mercy road

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    I believe you hit the nail on the head. I do not know about you or anyone else, but I always felt that the Rockets were much more in control of the game when D-Mo was in. When neither D-Mo or Howard were on the floor I just had a sense of dread. Overwhelming dread. I honestly do not know if it was warranted or not.

    We will all hope that D-Mo comes back healthy of course. His defense and post game of course will be back when he does. If his three point stroke is again like it was for the final three months of last season I believe McHale will up his offensive looks significantly. A true seven footer hitting at 40%+ from downtown is a thing of beauty if he is on your team. And that post game.

    But that is just my fan impression.
     

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