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Thibs: Defensive Specialist

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BeardSanity, Jun 9, 2015.

  1. Beardaholic13

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    Your the one confused...LAC avg 101 pts vs the spurs and GS avg 98 pts vs the Griz, two good defensive teams . Defense>Offense always was and will be
    We are bad defensively not only cuz personal but because of coaching, and none of them have a rim protector like we do in Howard. We were atrocious defensively and it wasn't because the teams we played were great offensively.Cleveland seems to be doing a good job against GS's "great offensive"...

    Dallas averaged 110 points against us ffs, with barea as their PG ...We need upgrading in coaching its clearly obvious( both offensively and defensively) and this would be perfect, i would prefer a one year deal as dobro said cuz thats probably the only thing he'd accept, unless we promised him the HC job while moving mchale up the ladder a year later.
    I do agree its not just coaching that needs upgrading but thats where it all starts getting better personal or not
     
  2. larsv8

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    Go ahead and research pace and get back to me.
     
  3. BeardSanity

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    2 reasons why this is possible.
    First off, I doubt he gets hired this year.
    Second, he is a defensive genius but is offensively inept.
    Teams like the Pelicans didn't even give him a shot and rather went with a HC like gentry who is an offense first coach.

    Reminds me of Wade Phillips.
     
  4. malakas

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    One big reason that it wont be possible though=> morrey. This couldnt tolerate the FO trading his players and meddling with his coachijg. Morrey does both.
     
  5. BeardSanity

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    Morey has and will continue to do anything to improve the team, his job depends on it.

    Josh smith isn't an analytic poster child, but morey chased him regardless.
     
  6. Beardaholic13

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    I understand pace, but i don't get what your implying..Is that the reason we gave up so many points?

    How many times did we see a defensive rebound trying to be converted into an outlet pass, but instead gets thrown away? bad discipline/bad coaching

    How many times did we see a 2-1 or sometimes 3-1 fast break end in a 3 pt jumper? Bad discipline/bad coaching

    How many times did we see an outlet pass off of a defensive rebound end up in a 20 foot missed jumper 3 seconds into the shot clock? Bad discipline/bad coaching

    Pace did play a part in giving up a lot of points but it wasn't the main reason
    that goes to poor rotations and TOs.Pace was actually our downfall in so many games.
    Still you can't justify giving up an average of 112 puts per game during the playoffs cuz of how fast paced we play.

    We obviously need an upgrade on the bench because when it comes to the playoffs..."play with energy and keep pushing the ball" doesn't cut it , this atlas will fix our defensive problems and leave us with an offensive mind to find.

    To say our problems are personal shows a lack of basketball knowledge, we had the most TOs and gave up the most puts in the playoffs, it surely was a miracle we went so far..(Dwight and James to thank for that).
    Even if we get a PG which is a must not much will change if no discipline is instilled into these players, thats what this does x100.
     
  7. malakas

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    And? Whats your point. This and Morrey are incompatible to work together.
     
  8. Beardaholic13

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    Its an obstacle for sure, but a much lesser one with him being an assistant first...once we get settled i don't think more will do much trading for ex.

    If we trade for lawson or sign lull, then next year get durant , we won't be trading a whole lot and even if we do they will always be minor. If he doesn't get a HC job as an assistant you don't mind these things imo.
     
  9. malakas

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    Ohh I hadnt realised people wanted him as an assistant to Mchale. Thibs will want a Hc job not being an assistant. And he will get another chance in the next two years.
     
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    Thibs wouldn't be HC anymore, though, so that's def a factor.
     
  11. dragician

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    I don't think he would join the rockets after what Les did to Jeff.
     
  12. Nimo

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    If Thibs becomes a Rockets assistant to McHale, it's only a matter of time before the assistant becomes the head coach.
     
  13. mvpcrossxover

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    Clippers will probably swoop him up. Doc Rivers and all.
     
  14. Verbal Christ

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    Thibs would come here only with the guarantee of the HC big. Funny thing is it won't happen, but if it did this team AS IS would be in the finals next year.
     
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    How many careers have been cut short by Thibs?

    If you look the minutes his players play it isn't an absurd amount.
     
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    That 2015 playoffs: Jimmy Butler, Harden and Paul

    If you can't see it, I don't know what to tell you.

    Having three 46 min + games vs freaking Milwaukee is just plain stupid.
     
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    The bulls have no other good wings besides jimmy. If he didnt play so much they would lose in the first round. Game 3 went to ot and except for the last game and game 1 all the other games were highly competitive.
     
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    You cant have a lot of star players and still get a bench, even GSW got away with it only because Barnes and Draymond Green are on rookie contracts.

    The rox are injury prone, the last thing you want to do is put a hardcore coach like Thibs who demanded intense practices from Joakim Noah even as he was recovering from a leg injury. What's the point of getting 5 more wins if your players careers get shortened? Look at how Kobe is breaking down at 33, too much practice is bad for their health.
     
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    So he is cutting Jimmy Butler's career short because he played him a lot of minutes in the playoffs?
     
  20. robbie380

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    You are going to be pretty hard pressed to find a star player under the age of 30 that isn't playing 40mpg in the playoffs.

    I know you brought up Harden but that is probably my main gripe with Harden. He doesn't have the ability to play 40+ mpg when needed.
     

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