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Tyus Jones

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by NBAphenom, Apr 7, 2015.

  1. Fantasma Negro

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    The thunder did the same thing with Cameron Payne. I'm not saying Morey is trying to taint his stock so he will be there at 18 (I thought he'd be there at 18 regardless) but tis the season for misdirection. I'd love to have Tyus on this team, he might not make a big difference this year but in two years he might be top 5 in the league. They should draft him and let him come off the bench behind Bev to spark the offense as he learns how to play defense in the nba. He reminds me a lot of Mike Conley, under rated and disrespected at first and then all of a sudden you look up and he's one of the best point guards in the league
     
  2. Red Hova

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    I like Tyus Jones, but in addition to the fact that he is talented enough to start for the Rockets especially offensively, he is also a good trading tool particularly for Ricky Rubio. Okafor would love that and so would the other players on Minnesota including LaVine. That said in my opinion keep Tyus Jones and sign a stable point guard behind him example Delledova.
     
  3. Hakeemtheking

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    This is the kind of behavior (cheating) that can get you in trouble. If the league office wanted to get the truth out these young guys, it wouldn't take a very smart investigator to dig it out. Are these GMs too smart for their own good? Maybe, but I find it unlikely. Many years ago, McHale got caught with his hand on the cookie jar, so there is a lesson to be learned if you are a Rockets exec.

    BTW, I like Tyus. Dude is a fearless playmaker, something we desperately need.
     
  4. basketballholic

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    Tyus is near the top of an impressive list of college freshman guards in win shares. Pretty powerful stuff. Throw out all the small schools and this is a small list of elite players.

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  5. Old Man Rock

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    What McHale did was on paper. What Morey is being accused of happens enough. No contracts, no legal terms just a gentlemen's agreement that we will draft you if you are available and we won't work out anyone else if you do the same.

    Not saying that's what happen. Even shady Chad said it was his opinion. But locking up workouts is a sign of the under the table deal. And it's really not governed by the NBA.

    If a player wants to go to a viable contender who desperately needs help at his position, and decides not to workout for anyone else is that the leagues business to tell him he can't do that. He has to workout. Nope they can't and won't do that.

    Plus the Rockets can't stop anyone from drafting him in front of them. If the Mavs want him just make a deal with the Bucks and they got him. Rockets can't do anything to stop that and the Mavs can't do anything to stop the Rockets from picking him in front of them unless they move up. Not illegal , just hedging your bet a little.

    If that's what Morey did than good for him. Lull, Tyus Jones and Terry solidify the backcourt. That's my dream. Unlike others I do not see many paths were Beverly returns. This is the year you sign role players. Next year everyone is more expensive and 7-8 mil will seem cheap.
     
  6. Fantasma Negro

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    Damn impressive list, I'm comfortable if Jones is the pick
     
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    I'm getting comfortable with it. If Morey takes him, I have to trust him. And I see a lot of metrics that make Tyus look very good. I'm just having trouble believing that McHale (or another coach) is going to run Jones out there and start him, either to begin the season, or at some point during the season. And we really need a serious upgrade at the point immediately.

    I definitely like his basketball iq. It's off the charts. The win shares back that up. Freshman leader. I worry about him being about to hold down his defensive position. I think that's critical next to Harden. And I worry about McHale burying him on the bench, sending him to RGV for the whole season and us not getting anything out of him next year because Coach won't put him in and let him play.
     
  8. Fantasma Negro

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    Thats a misconception about McHale, I'm not the biggest McHale fan but one thing I can say about him is he recognizes production. If we get Jones and he shows flashes I doubt he sees Rio Grande but if he goes to Rio and is productive McHale will find minutes for him (see Patrick Beverley, Troy Daniels, Terence Jones & Clint Capella)
     
  9. basketballholic

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    If McHale recognizes production then why did we dump our 2 best shooters, Daniels and Canaan?

    What I believe is McHale recognizes guys that play D. There's nothing wrong with that. But.....you can't play all guys that defend at the behest of not having offensive players on the floor who excel offensively. But that's where we wound up this season.

    McHale didn't like either player and wouldn't play them so Morey dropped them and got McHale defensive guys that he would play.

    I'll have to see McHale actually play offensive players that lack defensively before I believe he'll actually do it.
     
  10. J Sizzle

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    Ideally the Rockets trade this pick for a PG before the draft, but if we keep the pick, I'd be more than content with Tyus Jones. Jerian Grant is also somebody I've warmed up to.
     
  11. Fantasma Negro

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    I used to scream at my tv when Troy Daniels was on the floor because he was so freaking streaky. If Daniels was consistent with his shot he'd still be on this team but he would hit four threes on Monday and then be ice cold for the next six games, if you're a defensive liability and your only job is to hit threes and you stop hitting threes its only a matter of time til your number is up. He showed his ass in the game against us at the end of the season though. I'm a troy Daniels fan, you don't know how frustrated it was to see him struggle after hitting three after three with RGV. I'm cool his value brought us Brewer but I would've loved to keep him.
    Cannan played the worst defense from a point guard I've ever seen and his turnover numbers were bad, the writing was on the wall.
     
  12. PointZero

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    How many Bev-like defenders are there in the league?

    The Rocket's PG will have to play off the ball and keep a hand in the face of Curry. Just don't see the 6'1" freshman Tyus doing that.

    A ball dominant PG just doesn't work with Harden, anyway. Lin and Harden didn't mesh because Lin needed the ball (and Lin is pretty unselfish). A PG who needs the ball on 90% of the possessions won't work.
     
  13. Hakeemtheking

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    Don't be concerned then. Knowing Morey, he will draft another PF.
     
  14. DeAleck

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    I've watched a lot of Duke games... Thus Jones is not that ball dominant. Duke had a lot of weapons this past season, and Jones was a great distributor. He does take over when he needs to though, and he doesn't turn the ball over at all. At the end of the game and he has the ball, you just feel pretty good.
     
  15. finsraider

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    If Tyus is the pick, then Morey is absolutely convinced he's CP3 part 2 and can perform at a high level within a year or two. It would also mean that all of the other GMs are completely off base on their evaluations of him.

    I like him. He can shoot, is an underrated scorer around the rim, and definitely knows how to distribute. His defense doesn't concern me too much because he was just 18 y/o for his entire freshman season. His mistakes have as much to do with a lack of discipline as they do athleticism.

    One thing you shouldn't doubt......if the Rockets draft Tyus, they aren't planning to trade him. An undersized guard without elite athleticism isn't going to be good trade bait.

    My guess is this is all a smoke screen.
     
  16. ROXTXIA

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    Fixed.
     
  17. Chamillionaire

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    I hope so. There's some good players left at 18 and 32.
     
  18. malakas

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    Why are you so outraged? Morrey isnt the only one to do smth like this. It happens many times when players are promised to withdraw from further workouts. Esp if they and their agents dont believe they may have good chance to be drafter higher. If a team lets say in top10 contacted jones and showed interest he would be available.

    All ths signs now point in Jones being the pick. Im extremely interested to see how he fares. I personally dnt believe in him but i will hope he proves me wrong. I also trust morrey.
     
  19. finsraider

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    When all signs point to something, that is NEVER what we are doing.
     
  20. PrawnJ

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    Please stop blaming Mchale. Just look at chandler parsons. Marcus Morris selected at 14th, hyped as the next Carmelo..didn't really get that much playing time. Chandler Parsons, 38th pick, was a nobody, played consistently after impressing in practice. Please just stop it with the 'Mchale doesn't play rookies' narrative
     

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