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Police Crash a Pool Party

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Blatz, Jun 7, 2015.

  1. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

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    Child protective services anyone?
     
  2. MojoMan

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    According to your logic, it would be better to have your child shot in the street as a result of assaulting a police officer, like Michael Brown.

    Good thinking.
     
  3. fchowd0311

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    No. I don't expect my hypothetical 14 year old daughter in her bikini being assaulted because she has a loud mouth.
     
  4. ima_drummer2k

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    Best post in this thread.

    Watching the video, it looked like everything was winding down until Barney Fife barrel-rolled onto the scene and started cursing everyone out and taking down 14-year old girls in bikinis.

    This whole thing is about one cop acting like an ass. If this didn't happen on his shift, it would have just been cops breaking up a party and probably wouldn't have even made the local news.
     
  5. Air Langhi

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    This is the what the guy who took the video said:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ficer-pulling-gun-on-teenagers-at-pool-party/
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

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    Why would they be angry at trespassing? Must be racist
     
  7. MojoMan

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    Of course this radio host is correct. None of this would have happened if this group of kids had not trespassed, violated the HOA rules, and refused to cooperate with the police as instructed.

    To be fair, based on this one video it does appear that this cop was behaving in an overzealous manner and needed to ratchet it down a notch or two.

    However, the assertion by some people that the officer should lose his job for this likely appears to be excessive, and depending on what the standards of police conduct in Dallas are, it is very likely not going to happen. The fact that these people would jump to the conclusion that this officer should be fired, and to take it to another extreme, be subject to criminal charges apparently based on nothing more than this one video, is hysterical and out of control.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    I don't really want someone like that being a cop though. He blew up an otherwise calm situation that could have easily ended up getting people killed.

    Did the kids cause the problem with their illegal party? Sure, but the one bad cop made the situation many times worse. Take him out of the picture and there is no story here whatsoever.

    I just feel like the world would be a better place without cops like that on the force. If you can't control yourself, you can't be a cop.
     
  9. Cohete Rojo

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    14 year olds must have terrible memory. Looking at the video, she clearly is walking towards the officer and then someone starts pushing her away. Can't really hear what's going on since it sounds like a bunch of seagulls with everyone screaming.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;He told me to walk away and I did. Next thing I know I'm on the ground.&quot; At 5, more from teen pinned down by officer <a href="http://t.co/uJmmt50Bci">pic.twitter.com/uJmmt50Bci</a></p>&mdash; Zahid Arab (@ZahidArabFox4) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZahidArabFox4/status/607634780830588928">June 7, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  10. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Yeah this is all about one bad cop.

    He needs to be put in a different type of working environment with his temper.

    Police are supposed to be the peacekeepers and mediators not the agitators.
     
  11. Remii

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    She's Black... So no.

    But White folks have bigger issues to worry about than what Black folks are doing... The elite uses Black folks to distract them while their numbers are dropping and it's working perfectly.

    Y'all better learn Spanish... Lol.
     
  12. JayZ750

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    There's lots of voices in this.

    Many other accounts note that there was lots of disturbance being caused at the pool... starting with the teens actually being at the pool (apparently against regulation) to jumping fences, clashing with the security guard, smoking/drinking, etc.

    Smoking/drinking should be easy to figure out. Totality of witness comments, plus evidence... they were either doing it or not. If doing it, that's obviously an issue. It's illegal for teens.

    The rest may be in the wording. The Brooks kid says "unless provoked" in his response. We can have no idea what that means.

    This is way over-complicated.

    Teens did things they shouldn't have
    A cop did something he shouldn't have

    Cop should be punished, but not fired. Teens weren't arrested.

    I hate cops who think they are above the law, are racists, or bigots, or morons, etc. I also think it much harder to be a cop than people arguing on forums consistently make it out to be.
     
  13. HillBoy

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    I was expecting this. Guy reminds me of Uncle Ruckus from the Boondocks. EVERYTIME whites get caught acting in a racially biased manner, they ALWAYS go out and dredge up a black face to justify what happened. We call it the "I can't be racist because some of my friends are black" defense. We are the parents of a 19 year old son and because of **** like this I worry more for him than for my 25 year old daughter who lives alone (which is why we settled in Garland). My wife and I watched this unfold on local TV and it was obviously racially motivated. Those cops rolled up and immediately went after the black and hispanic kids and totally ignored the white ones. The kid shooting the video confirmed this is what happened. Craig's ranch in McKinney is like West Plano - the good white people there simply didn't want a bunch of black kids partying at their community pool.

    I have watched that video over and over and what stands out most to me is that fat white guy. The fact that white guy is freely walking around the cop even coming up behind him without anything happening proves this to me. If that so-called "police officer" was nervous and "agitated" about being surrounded (by all of those scary black faces), then why was his fat ass allowed to roam free, push a young girl and walk up to the cop from behind? With dumbass cops like that it's a miracle that crimes in McKinney get solved at all. Yeah, right. I'll believe it wasn't racial when the McKinney police produce video of white cops throwing young white girls in swimsuits to the ground and kneeing them in the back just like in that video. That girl's dad is beyond livid and I hope he sues that city into bankruptcy. Maybe then, they'll get the message that black people actually have the right to be in places like Craig's Ranch.
     
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    I don't know what you watched but he walked over to her.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZop_ixxn10
     
  15. MojoMan

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    Well, that was very certainly a racist post. If that was your objective, well done.
     
  16. bnb

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    In this case....no. He pulled a gun and tackled a young girl in a bikini over an authorized pool party.

    The situation was heated because he made it so....and even then it was still clean cut kids arguing with police. In a rougher crowd someone might have slugged the officer and we'd have a full on riot.

    Officer should be fired. The whole unit needs situation control training.
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    It wasn't an authorized pool party.

    It was one of those pools where you could take 1 guest.
     
  18. Major

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    What does punishing accomplish, though? The other cops were far more rational under the same circumstances in the exact same environment. In an office environment, you can chalk it up to a mistake and move on because there's no safety risk. But here, the concern has to be going forward - what happens if you put this cop in a more volatile environment? Can you take risk? Maybe you can punish by putting him in a different role (a desk job), but temperment is a critical element of being a good cop when you're interacting with people. I think it on the first page where someone mentioned that a big part of being a good cop is instinctually knowing when and how to deescalate situations, and he failed miserably on that - both objectively and in comparison to his fellow officers. Being a cop isn't a right, and unless there are no other qualified candidates, there's no reason the PD should take a risk with this guy in the field - the next time could be much worse.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    Which, as we all know, is the ONLY reason you care at all.
     
  20. bnb

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    That was my thought. Despite the race angle being played up, that looked like a pretty upscale neighborhood. This was definitely more Bel Air than West Philadelphia.
     

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