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The girl with the mattress

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, May 22, 2015.

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What do you think?

  1. The girl is right - the guy raped her

    3.2%
  2. The girl is a psycho ex who is trying to take revenge

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  3. I detect bias - need more facts

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  1. Northside Storm

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    Do you then disagree with the judge applying the law: "When sentencing Evans, the judge took into account that there had been no force involved and the complainant received no injuries."

    Do you also agree with this lady when she says "The figures reported that approximately 85,000 women are raped on average in England and Wales every year. Over 400,000 women are sexually assaulted each year. And 1 in 5 women (aged 16 – 59) had experienced some form of sexual violence since the age of 16."?

    lol.

    I'm glad you agree with a feminist that decries a common societal misunderstanding of rape. Are you asking for the rule of law to match that definition and for judges to rule accordingly? huzzah if so to you accepting the systematic underreporting of rape. Your court of public opinion led somewhere!

    FYI the about us page for your previous blog post you agreed with--

    Where are you even getting these personal opinions and are you actually reading them? lol
     
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  2. andersongo

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    True.
     
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    Sorry kid, I don't have time for you right now.
     
  4. durvasa

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    This following scenario is impossible?

    A girl pleads "no" to a sexual encounter but eventually gives in out of fear (which may or may not have been in response to an explicit threat).

    She may think that it wasn't rape because the guy was someone she was friends with or had intimate relations with. Or she may be initially in denial that it was rape, because of her feelings towards him. Maybe she's just immature and hangs out with people where this kind of thing happens all the time, so she assumes it must not be a big deal.

    Then, some time later, after reflecting on what happened and rethinking what "rape" actually means, she arrives at the belief that she was raped.
     
  5. Northside Storm

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    no, those feminist blogs you don't read and disprove everything you say won't unearth themselves.

    that and the forum war on Islam.

    haha. you have fun with this court of public opinion ATW. ;)
     
  6. andersongo

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    "A woman has the power to say no, but a man has the power to not listen and force himself on her regardless."

    My comment was not concerned with a situation where the woman communicated her disapproval. There is no "ambiguity" to be found in such cases. Also people should back off with the use of PTSD to explain away every contradictory facts.

    "I suppose you are referring to her use of "I love you" in her text messages. I'm sure you are aware that girls commonly say this among friends in a casual manner. In my opinion, she was trying to be friendly with the guy. I don't put any more into it than that."

    I don't know if you are actually being serious or trolling. If it is the former, then this theory is incredibly implausible as a means to maintain mere cordiality. It also does not explain Mattress Girl's willingness to bring female friends for an encore with her rapist.
     
  7. andersongo

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    So a girl pleads "no" to a sexual encounter but yet may not realise that she is being raped? Mattress Girl is not a ten year old. She is a grown ass woman who used to have hook-ups with her beta german ****-buddy.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    If there was an explicit or implicit threat, she knew about it immediately...or she wouldn't have gone through with the act. Now, in that scenario maybe she wouldn't immediately think to report the crime, but she knew about the rape immediately and I don't think she'd be sending "I love you" "I want you to F me in the A" messages to the rapist afterwards.
     
  9. andersongo

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    Northside Storm disseminating those precious Tumblr nuggets of knowledge.
     
  10. Northside Storm

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    Not true--there is a systematic underreporting of rape for partly that reason. Even though the legal definition of rape centers on the lack of consent and not just the use of force, not many people know as evidenced by this thread.

    http://www.vox.com/2014/12/6/7342971/rape-myths-sexual-assault

    Again--

    which leads us to--

     
  11. Northside Storm

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    actually in this case ATW went straight to Wordpress sites, and didn't bother to read them--that's the reference made. ;)

    that said, let me clarify that I'm not a Tumblr person. I much prefer Ghost or Wordpress, especially my own local installations. mmm node.js and handlebars
     
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    The intern frantically googling, copying and pasting again, trying to play the white knight to women who are not remotely interested in his nerdy beta personality.
     
  13. andersongo

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    BS surveys again. So now women know that they have undergone forced penetration (rape) but yet don't think they have been raped? Or is it not more plausible that their ambivalence about calling such encounters "rape" show that penetration was most probably not forcible at all?
     
  14. andersongo

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    Thus is the life of the beta-orbiter SJW.
     
  15. Northside Storm

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    haha

    you're going to throw in attractiveness to women now in a f**king web forum debate?

    bahaha. somebody's secure. ;)
     
  16. Northside Storm

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    indeed :)

    now stick to the f**king arguments lmao
     
  17. Northside Storm

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    Lack of consent is the central focus of the law--and that can only be obtained with not only the lack of use of force but affirmative consent.
     
  18. andersongo

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    I would if there was one.
     
  19. Northside Storm

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    look above, beta

    ;)
     
  20. andersongo

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    Merely consent. Not affirmative consent which shift the burden of proof from accuser to accused. The "use of force" means contravening the will of someone else (in typical libertatarian legalese) and thus the only non-forcible rapes are those associated with passed out victims.

    Your BS survey claimed that one of the reasons that "victims" who are otherwise aware that they have been forcibly penetrated won't report their ordeal to the police because they don't know if it is actually a crime. Sure.
     

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