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2015 NBA Finals: Golden State vs. Cleveland

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., May 27, 2015.

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Golden State vs. Cleveland

Poll closed Jun 4, 2015.
  1. Warriors in 4

    4.8%
  2. Warriors in 5

    14.6%
  3. Warriors in 6

    21.1%
  4. Warriors in 7

    6.8%
  5. Cavs in 7

    10.9%
  6. Cavs in 6

    33.0%
  7. Cavs in 5

    3.7%
  8. Cavs in 4

    5.1%
  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    Warrior Point Guard Luck is prevailing

    I must say . . .that block in the fourth by Kyrie
    All I could think was. . . .WELL, Steph you not playing against 37 years old now . . . .
    Then he got hurt. . . . . .

    Rocket River
     
  2. hvic

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    I think the warriors can win the series if they can stop making stupid mistakes. Lebron can't do everything. I bet my friend a bottle of hennessy xo that the warriors will win the series.
     
  3. shastarocket

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    Anyone know how expensive food was at Toyota Center for the WCF?

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Food prices at the oracle
    <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NBAFinals?src=hash">#NBAFinals</a> <a href="http://t.co/CrevUaGaCD">pic.twitter.com/CrevUaGaCD</a></p>&mdash; DJ Folk (@DJFolk) <a href="https://twitter.com/DJFolk/status/606621924215648256">June 5, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  4. J.R.

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    [rquoter]Emotions run high after Irving's knee setback

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    Drederick, Wechsler and several of Irving's friends gathered outside the Cavs locker room and began talking with emotion about the situation. Wechsler pulled Cavs general manager David Griffin aside to discuss it.

    There's been some tension between these two sides for weeks now. Irving's father and Wechsler, sources said, have been preaching caution with Irving and this knee issue. Naturally, they are focused on his long-term health and have concern that playing on a weakened knee -- what the Cavs have said publicly was a bad case of tendinitis -- could put him at risk of suffering a greater injury. Going to see Andrews was part of the entire group's efforts to get a full handle on what Irving was facing and get independent advice on the situation.

    Of course on the other side, the Cavs want Irving to play as long as he's not seriously hurt. As Irving was limping through the start of the conference finals against the Hawks, it was easy to identify some mild friction. As Irving was preparing to get a second opinion, there was a sense he was being challenged to play through it.

    "It's a combination of pain management and what the physical symptoms are," Cavs coach David Blatt said at the time. "It's just a matter of is he healthy enough to play? Does he feel healthy enough to play? That's all."

    LeBron James talked of the responsibility of playing through some pain when you're a star player.

    "Everyone's pain tolerance is different, but my responsibility is much higher than a lot of guys," James said. "Not only on this team, but a lot of guys in professional sports, and I take it very seriously."

    Blatt and James seemed to be trying to offer perspective and nuance, but perhaps it didn't come off that way. It came off as a suggestion that it was up to Irving and whether he could tolerate playing with the pain. A manhood test.

    This might not have been well received. When Irving was declared out for Game 2 of the conference finals the next day, Blatt took a completely different stance. Instead of saying it was a matter of Irving's pain management, this time he said it was the Cavs' doctors who had made the call to shut Irving down. The Cavs seemed to take strides to make it clear it wasn't up to him.

    There is no easy or clearly right answer here. Irving is just 23 and he's got a long career ahead of him. The Cavs have $80 million committed to him over the next five years. It is in everyone's interest to play the long game and be cautious.

    Knees are not to be messed with -- they are the No. 1 cause of ruined careers -- and Irving is dealing with some pretty significant issues, that much is clear.

    To many, this wouldn't even be a discussion, Irving would've remained shut down. And the idea of playing him 44 minutes on the bad knee, as Blatt did in Game 1, was an unacceptable amount of strain even if he wasn't playing so very well and looking so much healthier.

    But this is also the Finals. There are no guarantees that Irving, James and the rest of the Cavs will ever have this opportunity again. It doesn't feel that way; it's a reasonably young core and their future is bright. Of course, there are so many examples of such assumptions going off course. What James articulated about stars having a higher expectation is how many people feel. This could be a once in-a-lifetime chance, and perhaps that should be computed into the pain management.

    Irving, who would prefer not to discuss his injuries as in-depth as he's been forced into over the past month, has no doubt spent a lot of time weighing all these factors. Only he truly knows how his knee feels. Only he knows the rigors of the rehab he's gone through again and again just so he can keep trying to get out there and give the team whatever he has.

    Of the past six games the Cavs have played, he's been unable to finish three because of re-aggravating the knee tendinitis, and two other games he didn't play at all. This is a fight he's waging, and he cannot seem to turn the corner. In addition to the pain, he's got conflicting motivations tugging at him, and both can make meaningful cases.

    It's a rotten position to be in, just pure bad luck and horrid timing. And above all that, it hurts.[/rquoter]
     
  5. RedRedemption

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    What in the world...
     
  6. khanhdum

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    food prices was normal regular reason prices for all 3 series. wow oracle raping with ticket prices and food prices
     
  7. malakas

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    27$ for chicken wings? WOW.
    Imagine how it will be when the team moves to San Fransisco.

    Kyries entourage should shut up. This is the finals. Kyrie wants to play anyway, and he had 7 days to rest. If you win, smh, you win a freaking championship.
     
  8. Haymitch

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    Do the Astros still do $1 hot dog days?
     
  9. Nick

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    Yeah, but its disgusting.... and there's a 4 dog limit.... and why anybody would have to have 4 hot dogs, let alone more than 1, simply because its a "dollar" is part of the problem.
     
  10. houseofglass21

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    You sound fat. Certainly one doesn't accrue 35,000 posts on a message board without sacrificing their waistline.
     
  11. houseofglass21

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    Most of the people in the Oracle are from San Francisco and could afford those prices considering that to live anywhere in San Fran costs a gazillion dollars a month.
     
  12. coach41

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    If the Cavs were fully healthy, they would beat the Warriors? Love is like David Lee of the Warriors. The Warriors would have found a way to expose Love's defensive weaknesses. Imagine if David Lee were starting instead of Draymond. The Warriors might not have made the Finals. Tristen Thompson is a pretty good role player at 6'9". Besides LeBron or Kyrie, Thompson would be a nice front court piece off the bench for the Warriors if we didn't have Festus or Mo Speights.

    Everyone needs to stop with the "would have, should have, could have" with the Rockets (or any other team). Knicks fan could say they could have won if Starks had a better game.

    If the Warriors win, history books are not going to focus on the "what if" but "what is".
     
  13. el gnomo

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    Those prices are somewhat misleading. Comes with a beer, which is at least $13. Still high, but not as bad as it seems.
     
  14. el gnomo

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    bump. and *deep-seated. y u so jelly of the bay area bruh?
     
  15. ibm

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    i smell a lot of gsw fans here and talking a little one-sided. but its ok. its the very nature of being a sports fan, lol.

    to me, i just wanna see a fantastic series that goes to 6 or 7. dont really care who actually wins.

    thought it'd be a 50-50 series for both teams. now with irving's injury, it just looks one injury too many for the cavs to have a decent chance to win it.
     
  16. RedRedemption

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    Steph Curry J'd me and my entire family. :(

    Nah its just a build up of Warriors getting lucky this season, the BSPN 24/7 media coverage of Curry, the Warriors beating the Rockets, and me being a Bron fan.
    If the Rockets never faced the Warriors, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't hate GSW as much.
     
  17. PhiSlamma15

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    Cleveland proving how hard it is to beat the Warriors in a series. On top of it the Warriors being healthy when most teams they've played including the Rockets have injuried players has been a HUGE BONUS. Warriors gonna win this thing and proves how GOOD the Rockets were this year in spite of the injuries and lack of having a season of team chemistry having to gel on the fly with all the player trades mid year
     
  18. zeeshan2

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    The Cleveland Cavaliers are looking to bounce back on Sunday, but according to Jon Barry in an interview with Dan Patrick, they’re not counting on Kyrie Irving to be a part of it. Barry couldn’t pinpoint which injury has the Cavaliers so worried, but he heard someone say that they think he’s done.

    “I heard something from a Cavalier person – and this is not documented – but they feel like he’s done for the series.”
    Now Kyrie’s own comments weren’t that definitive, but assuming he wasn’t as forthcoming with the media as he was with his agent, father and Cavs’ brass behind closed doors, it’s not hard to imagine someone with the Cavaliers saying this to Jon Barry. Kyrie was willing to admit that he was “a little worried,” and he probably should be based on how many struggles he’s had with his health during these playoffs.

    http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2015/06/jon-barry-cavs-think-kyrie-irving-is-done-for-the-series/
     
  19. Haymitch

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    I'm guessing you live there / are a fan of GSW?
     
  20. el gnomo

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    Don't forget the popo taking out Sefalosha.
     

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