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Would you trade Clint Capela and #18 for Cameron Payne?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by basketballholic, Jun 2, 2015.

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If you could trade Capela and #18 for Cameron Payne, would you do it?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. da_juice

    da_juice Member

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    The only point guards in this draft worth trading Capela are Russell and Mudiay, not so much because of Capela's value, but because outside of those two the point guards in this draft class are all relatively even.
     
    #41 da_juice, Jun 2, 2015
  2. ptealixpaint

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    Capela is more ready to contribute in the NBA than Cameron will be, as we saw in the playoffs. Only thing you trade Capela for is a true win-now piece that really puts us over the top. His potential is just too high. Think if he spends the off season in the weight room with Dmo and Howard...
     
    #42 ptealixpaint, Jun 2, 2015
  3. Bo6

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    just watch capela in the limited minutes he had in the PLAYOFFS and you can see why we are high on him
     
    #43 Bo6, Jun 2, 2015
  4. basketballholic

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    Well, Kaminsky for starters. But Kaminsky might slip. So I wouldn't trade Capela for a pick to pick Kaminsky. If Kaminsky was still there at 15, I might try to trade #18 and something else to move up to #15 for him.


    If Capela landed #12 let's say, I'd like to see if I could trade #12 and #18 for #7 or #8 and take Mario Hezonja. I believe he's going to be a superstar. And he's got the tools we need on this team. Elite shooting. Elite finishing. Elite athleticism. Great length. And the talent and drive to become a great defender. That's my trade target if I'm trading Capela for a lottery pick.


    The only other guy I'd trade Capela for would be Looney straight up. I really don't think Looney is going to fall to #18. So, I'd trade Capela for him. Then possibly trade #18 for a future pick, maybe in next year's draft.
     
    #44 basketballholic, Jun 2, 2015
  5. Nook

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    Any discussion of Capela being a star if foolish. He lacks an offensive game beyond dunks and putbacks and it is unlikely that he ever really develops one. He does block shots well, rebound well, move extremely well and is capable of guarding multiple positions all of which are very important in the modern NBA. I also think it is likely he becomes a good passer. I don't view him as a future above average starter in part based on his body, I don't think he is going to put on weight well.

    Still he makes little money, he works extremely hard (which matters with young athletically gifted players) and a rotational big that can do what he does is very important to a team trying to win and add another key piece with payroll flexibility limited.

    I would deal him but not for a late or middle lottery pick unless that pick was going in another deal to bring in an an all star talent.

    The fact that he would have been in the D-League if not for Dorsey's struggles is irrelevant. He was given an opportunity to play and overall did well.
     
    #45 Nook, Jun 2, 2015
  6. heypartner

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    Random Trade Idea

    we have a thread for this
     
    #46 heypartner, Jun 2, 2015
  7. AndySwanny

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    Gotcha. I love Hezonja as well. Didn't think about the scenario of #18 + Capela to move up.

    I'm just not sure if that's what we need. It seems like a better use of those assets would be to go all in on a non-rookie (in a position of need) that will help us contend right away. Maybe Hezonja could do that, but you have to explore the Lowry/Lawson options first.

    The only caveat to that would be if we dealt a combination Ariza + Jones/DMo + 32 to improve the PG spot after drafting Hezonja. Then I can definitely see the value.

    It's probably too big of an overhaul, but fun to fantasize a little bit.
     
    #47 AndySwanny, Jun 2, 2015
  8. kjayp

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    he's the second coming of Mutumbo.... ;)


    you dont trade that for an unknown...
     
    #48 kjayp, Jun 2, 2015
  9. ThatBoyNick

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    No because he's not on Basketballholic's - Rockets draft targets. The Rockets are obviously not interested.
     
    #49 ThatBoyNick, Jun 3, 2015
  10. malakas

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    No. I wouldnt.
    And on the other hand the pacers who seems to have promised Payne wouldnt do it either.
     
    #50 malakas, Jun 3, 2015
  11. saleem

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    His body type is somewhat like a young KG. Clint is not soft, unlike D-Mo. I think it's possible for him to become an above average role player, but that will take 2-3 years.
     
    #51 saleem, Jun 3, 2015
  12. bejezuz

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    I just hope he doesn't put on too much muscle. Dream proved that lateral quickness and hops are far superior to raw strength when it comes to basketball. Hakeem didn't start lifting weights until he had to deal with Shaq every year.
     
    #52 bejezuz, Jun 3, 2015
  13. Aleron

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    Capela's issues in Europe was he was somehow in love with his jump shot (not unlike Dwight being in love with his post game, well except Capela's 35% or whatever jump shot was better), his work ethic had a question mark and teams are really nervous about euro bigs (see Gobert as well)

    He's cut out his mid range jumpers, by all reports he works really hard, and there's nothing anyone can do about subconscious aversion
     
    #53 Aleron, Jun 3, 2015
  14. count_dough-ku

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    Even if his ceiling isn't that high, Capela's a better athlete than Mutombo ever was. Dude could be a special player. You don't trade that away unless you're getting a bonafide star in return(and even then I'd be hesitant to pull the trigger).
     
    #54 count_dough-ku, Jun 3, 2015
  15. Dubious

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    this is a useless thread
     
    #55 Dubious, Jun 3, 2015
  16. Haymitch

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    Because there's already a random trade idea thread or because there's already a thread about Capela's trade value?
     
    #56 Haymitch, Jun 3, 2015
  17. count_dough-ku

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    Of course he was pressed into playing. So was D-Mo when Dwight and T-Jones went down. And D-Mo responded and earned his way into the rotation. As did Capela late in the season when D-Mo went down and Dwight couldn't play B2Bs. By the time we reached the end of the season, McHale had already seen enough solid play out of the kid to bump him ahead of Dorsey into the backup center role.

    It's not that rare for a good NBA player to emerge only after getting an opportunity to play after the guy ahead of him in the rotation gets hurt or is playing like crap. Capela took advantage of the opportunity. It sounds almost as if you're penalizing him for that.
     
    #57 count_dough-ku, Jun 3, 2015
  18. photojoe

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    Me too. No way.
     
    #58 photojoe, Jun 3, 2015
  19. danoman

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    We will get our share of high picks when we suck again. For now I'm happy trading our pick for a proven player or getting lucky finding a gem with our pick.
     
    #59 danoman, Jun 3, 2015
  20. hakeemthagreat

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    What Capela needs is a summer with Hakeem. I believe next year he'll probably be our biggest contributor off the bench. All needs is a weight room and post lessons from the master
     
    #60 hakeemthagreat, Jun 3, 2015
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