Because nobody ever elects to do conversion therapy? Surgery is for yourself. Conversion therapy is for your unaccepting family and other members of society. Edit: Just saw Rocketman95's post: Truf.
Did you see who the runner up was? He's a reality tv personality that was an athlete a long time ago. I don't see the relevance now to ESPN. It's a publicity stunt.
Nobody would be talking about this if not for Jenner's sporting prowess. When you're a transcendent athlete/national hero, that stuff tends to follow you.
You're kidding, right? He gets all of of this attention because of Keeping up with the Kardashians. Only older people would know him aside from that.
If this was just another cast member on a reality show I really doubt there would be nearly this much fuss.
Someone that has a real fetish, they cannot reach sexual satisfaction without a particular fetish. Liking something sexual and a legitimate fetish are not the same thing.
You can judge.... just think long and hard how much it really effects your life and compare it to how much it effects theirs. I used to ridicule it and laugh and mock it; until it hit home that this isn't a joke to these people, this isn't something they do lightly and the levels of depression and suicide are far higher than the general public. So do you really give a damn enough to have a strong opinion? I don't... I say let them live their lives, they aren't hurting anyone.
Yep, they are selling respect for ratings just like the Jenners <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I couldn't give the first damn about the ESPYs, but someone other than Lauren Hill is winning the courage award?</p>— Jerry Palm (@jppalmCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/jppalmCBS/status/605708867473805313">June 2, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OJ Brigance, Lauren Hill are both worthy candidates for the Arthur Ashe courage award if it was not about ratings, hits and clicks</p>— Clarence Hill (@clarencehilljr) <a href="https://twitter.com/clarencehilljr/status/605729004243402752">June 2, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Come on. He isn't doing it for money or fame. He is doing it so that people are exposed to transgender people and hopefully are more understanding.... and to let other people that are transgender know it isn't a death sentence. I am not going to pretend to understand it, I don't and as a teenager I ripped on a guy that dressed like a woman..... until it hit me that to me it was just something funny, to him it was his whole existence. It made me feel like ****. He ultimately killed himself when I was in college.
That's a weak argument. For any award at any level there are always examples of people who have done more/been more courageous, etc. than the winner. Was Stuart Scott really the bravest man in the world when he won his award? There wasn't a sports kid somewhere in America dying of cancer that year?
Stuart Scott was very relevant to sports at the time of his award. The Iraqi vet with missing limbs should have won it.
Agreed. I've got nothing against him or anyone changing his/her gender and being his/herself and being out and proud about it. I would absolutely encourage it. However, this award seems odd. He's not a sports figure at all anymore, at least not to me (and most, I would assume). And didn't he say he has always used sports as a way to escape his feelings of who he really was/is? So honoring him for a sports award seems out of place. You're not wrong, but "weak" or not I think I still agree with that argument. PS - Apologies of my use of "he"; should have been she, I suppose.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Caitlyn Jenner wins Arthur Ashe Courage Award. And the runner-up is .... <a href="http://t.co/DKUdnPT8Gx">pic.twitter.com/DKUdnPT8Gx</a></p>— Gerry Callahan (@GerryCallahan) <a href="https://twitter.com/GerryCallahan/status/605475428791238656">June 1, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I acknowledge that the struggle is real for these people and I even found myself feeling sympathetic towards him during the Diane Sawyer interview. That interview is the type of thing that makes people more understanding of issues such as this. Of course he then proceeded to find his way onto the cover of Vanity Fair (which was then plastered on every major news site) and get his own reality show and it quickly became quite obvious what the bottom line here is. If you believe that someone who comes from one of the most self-absorbed, spotlight-obsessed families in America isn't milking this for all that it's worth and is solely "doing it so people are exposed to transgender people," then I honestly don't know what to tell you.
