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[Game of Thrones] Season Five

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  1. The Real Shady

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    Sure I know they had this tales but it is not like they had scientists back in the days that were tracking down dragons every day.

    They were no dragons alive for hundred years that humans came across....

    There could be some hidden, or maybe I just love second guessing.
     
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    How could it not be Drogon? The dragon was black and Voltanis is "near" Meereen. The last scene of him it showed him flying off the temple in the scene with Daenerys on the balcony.
     
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    Winter doesn't always have a White Walker invasion, it seems some people are confused that Winters means this or I'm simply misunderstanding.
     
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    i think there's a winter which is normal cold... then there is Winter with a capital w. it's the one that house of stark always keeps saying. it's like an ice age so it don't happen every year but when it happens it becomes really cold and that extreme cold brings something else with it...
     
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    Yup they alluded to the last Winter lasting like 12 years or something in previous seasons.
     
  7. Cannonball

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    No you're right. Seasons don't work the same way in Westeros like they do for us where each season lasts 1/4 of the year. In Westeros, one season can last years, and they're unpredictable. In the current story, it's been Summer for 9 or 10 years. Similarly, Winter can last multiple years. It's said that the "long night" lasted a generation. That's why the words "Winter is Coming" are so foreboding. When it comes, it's not going to be 3 months followed by Spring. It could be a long, long time before summer comes around again.

    So it's been roughly a decade since the last Winter. By contrast, the White Walkers haven't been seen for thousands of years.

    The Stark words clearly refer to the seasonal Winter and not an invading horde of undead that nobody's seen for millennia and few believe ever existed.
     
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    It's definitely Drogon. In terms of theories you have to consider whether it would add to the actual plot. The plot of Tyrion and Jorah seeing Drogon was important to establishing the future Tyrion/Daenarys connection. The art for the season included Tyrion at the helm of a boat looking at him. There's no reason to suppose it's another dragon when his absence is essential to the plot. Tyrion will help rein in and control the dragons in some way. Makes sense with the disparity in their stature as well. I can see him riding a dragon into battle.

    No one likes my White Walkers have a positive motive theory?? I think the entire theme of GOT is that characters are not evil but simply motivated by something we may not understand yet. The villains in GOT die in a satisfying manner but it seems like there is more meaning in having a misunderstood villain. The Walkers may be generally evil in that they're opposed to the Night's Watch and the Wildlings but they are more than likely acting on a rational motive than simply destroying civilization as we know it. I'd suggest they were pushed into the north a long time ago and built the Wall to keep others out (ice powers). They attack when others encroachv on their territory. The lack of information about their motives makes me extremely skeptical.
     
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    Probably Drogo but is it realistic that couple of dragons can fight against 100 thousands of Walkers ... not so sure
     
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    This:


     
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    That is the motive in most of the movies and series today....

    There is not a white and black pattern but a lot of grey areas.

    Even the sociopaths have sides that the audience can identify with.

    Depending on what motivations they are
     
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    FWIW, I don't think the show is ultimately going to be about defeating the White Walkers. I still think it's going to be about power and control and who sits on the throne at the end.

    In this last episode we had Tyrion asking who would support Dany if she went to Westeros to claim the throne. She's the last of her house. The common folk are not loyal to her family. That the last Targaryen to rule was the "Mad King" doesn't help. There is no love for her family or her name in Westeros. Even if she could overpower her opponents, how will she win the hearts of the people?

    Maybe the White Walkers and Wights do end up threatening the entire realm. They overpower the Night's Watch, break through the wall and wreak havoc. Nobody can stop them. Nobody until Dany shows up with her dragons to save the day. With the support and appreciation of the common folk, she retakes the throne at the end. The story as a whole is about her growing as a leader and Queen and returning to her homeland to take back her family's rightful place on the Iron Throne. The White Walkers/Wights are just a means of her winning support in the country she intends to conquer. Just as the events in Astapor, Yunkai, and Meereen are a means of her learning how to lead.
     
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    I get what you are saying but Daeny as Queen at the end is just as tedious and boring as the end may come.

    Personally I'd still prefer a Stark, Baratheon .......
     
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    Are there zombies and white walkers? Or are they the same thing? The ones that were just killed in the battle - are they going to be white walkers or zombies?
     
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    I don't think the conclusion of the story will be as much about defeating the White Walkers as it will be a battle between two sides with characters we care about on both sides. I could see Snow and the Starks/White Walkers facing off with Dany/Dragons in some fashion. The finale will have to be open-ended in terms of audience allegiance and I expect both the Walkers and dragons to be around til the end. I can't imagine this show with every sympathetic character fighting the Walkers, or with them being dismantled before it's all over.
     
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    i understand only a little of what is happening in the book series (i read the first 2 a long time ago) but... how many more seasons of this show are there going to be?
     
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    Zombies = Wights
    Frosted blue eyed folks = White Walkers (also referred to as "Others")

    The ones just killed in battle I would assume are Wights now. Im not certain because some of their eyes turned blue. I'm not sure if Wights also have blue eyes like the White Walkers. As a matter of fact, I don't know how one becomes a White Walker. Wights are risen from the dead by a White Walker, but how do you become a White Walker?
     
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    Maybe they get turned while they are alive? In season 3 or 4, the White Walker carried a baby to that Stonehenge looking thing and turned him. I'd venture a guess and say that the baby is a White Walker. That scene seems pretty significant now since many White Walkers were present.
     
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    The white walkers are their own race of people. They showed a scene last season where a live baby was turned into a white walker. I guess they mature normally. There really isn't much lore on the white walkers, the show has already shown much more than the books have.

    The reanimated dead bodies are wights. They all have blue eyes, some are just decayed to the point where they no longer have eyes.
     
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    Showrunner have stated they would like a 7 season run.
     

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