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Comparison of Jordan and Lebron's Postseason Career Thus Far

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by a711, May 27, 2015.

  1. adobo

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    Obviously smarty pants, you have to take out one of the superstars to put Lebron in that team. Unless those other superstars take a massive paycut for rings. Thats a big fail already.

    You can say that about any other West superstars. Put Harden on Spurs with what they currently have, or put Harden on the Clippers team with Blake and Chris Paul....again thats a big fail.

    But doesnt that show you how good the West teams are....amazing how much stars this conference have compared to the EAST. Imagine having to play those teams 3-4 times a year...then having to face them on the way to the finals. A lot tougher than the cake walk that is the Eastern conference.
     
  2. Jonhty

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    you're assuming lebron will make more finals. imo he needs MANY more finals to make up the losses. if he can go 6/12 or even 5/9, then yes it's greater than 6/6.
     
  3. J.R.

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    Do you realize Lebron spent 9 years on the cavs before he went to Miami? Do you realize Kobe won 3 rings his first 5 years in the league? :rolleyes: No matter how you slice it, supporting cast plays a big role on team success like rings. MJ had six years to win a ring by himself before PJ and Krause arrived and gave him one of the best supporting casts of all time but even he couldnt get past Detroit. So what if chicago was incompetent like the Cavs and had Mike brown like the cavs how many rings would MJ have?

    So like I said if LBJ had been playing with Rodman and Pippen and Kerr and Kucoch Im he wouldve had six rings as well, a lot of true superstars wouldve done it like Hakeem, Magic, Shaq, Kevin Durant, Tim Duncan etc.
     
  5. hoopster325

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    One thing Lebron will ALWAYS be knocked on forever is no matter what, he signed on with Wade and Bosh, and then came back to sign on with Kyrie.

    Jordan took whatever he had around him. Pippen was drafted by the Bulls, Pippen developed alongside MJ. There's something said for how Jordan went about his business, didn't matter who his teammates were, he was gunning for the win.

    This is why Jordan will forever be remembered as the greatest, he didn't take the easy way to the top the way Lebron did.

    That is why the Jordan myth will reign on, the guy was a warrior, competitive to every molecule in his body. He was the very epitome, definition, of how a champion should act. He was the very epitome of American greatness.
     
  6. Air Langhi

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    MJ didn't win anything without Pippen. So what if he never got pippen and got rings would he have stayed?
     
  7. SK34

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    You don't necessarily have to take out the superstars to fit in Lebron to a team.... Example: Miami. 3 Superstars.

    But even if you do take away one star from Lebron. He and another star would than have many better pieces around him. Great Role Players.

    No matter how you cut it, Lebron would take any team in the West to the NBA Finals.

    If we expect KD to take his team to the Finals every year if healthy w/ healthy Westbrook, same can be expected of Lebron and Lebron would probably make it happen.
     
  8. adobo

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    Did you know....

    How many all stars did Jordan have during his first ring? BIG FAT ZERO.

    Pippen was not an all star. Pippen didn't team make the All NBA team at all, not even the 3rd team. Pippen also didn't make the All-Defensive first team that season.

    In this season, you know who they had to beat to win the ring? They had to eliminate the 76ers that had 4th in MVP voting that year of Barkley and Hersey Hawkins who was also an all star.

    Then they had to beat the famous Bad-Boy Pistons in the ECF who were the defending champions, who just eliminated the 56 win Celtics that still had McHale, Bird and Parish.

    Then in the Finals, they beat the runner up MVP Magic's Lakers team who had 58 wins that season and also had All Star James Worthy.

    Did you know:
    -Jordan's 2nd season, he was out for the majority of the season due to a foot injury? He only had like a dozen games early in the season.
    -Did you know that Rodman and Kukoc was not there for the first part of the three peat?
    -Did you know that the time when Jordan won his 6 rings in the 90s....Eastern conference was in fact the strongest period for the East?
    -Did you know that the period LBJ has been going for his finals run in the East, it has been in fact the weakest?

    Want more?
     
  9. Icehouse

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    Pippen made the ASG in 90. He just didn't make it in 91. Look at his numbers from 91 and the other title years. Around the same dominant impact.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html

    Let's not try to act like Jordan ever won with scrubs or that Pippen and Grant weren't at stud levels every year they won. It's quite misleading.
     
  10. adobo

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    So you would take that Pippen and Grant of 1991 over the 2011 Wade and Bosh?

    That 1991 Jordan led team won that championship by posting 31pt/7reb/11ast per game? The Wade i mean Lebron led that team in 2011 by posting 18/7/7 and lost in the finals...

    If you want to compare Lebron to MJ and say he is the same or greater...prove to me...all i keep seeing is....historically weak east...shifting from team to team....keep loosing in the finals....

    Lebron is great...one of the most dominant players i have seen....but to say his GOAT or his in the level of GOAT? Your just being bias
     

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