[BS Report] 03/09/15 - Kevin Love to Houston, Harden MVP

Plays should be splited with 50% harden handling the ball, 30% using Harden as decoy(that way he's still engage and active), and 20% for other players. It is really unfair to expect someone to burst their ass on the defense end and never ever have a play run for them. Like with DMO at the beginning, DMO would play good defense and never be rewarded even though he had the advantage against the opponent. Harden would drive and try to make play or pass it to a shooter. How demoralizing is that for a developing player like DMO?

 

You are also a couple of steps away from a first round matchup with the Spurs and a possible loss in the first round.

Listen, we did some heavy lifting here and deserved our spot in the WCF, but lets not pretend that this is the norm and we didn't have our fair share of luck to get us here. (Durant out for the playoffs, Spurs losing the last game of the season, CP3 missing the first two games of the Clippers series.)

And I don't think you are blowing anything up. You could trade Ariza for cap space, sign Love, then look to move Dmo/Jones for a new 3 and D guy. Thats not a blow up, that is just a talent upgrade.

 

Make sense ..in order to improve the PG position , we need a PF

 

The Rockets don't have another high usage guy like Kyrie Irving. Love would get 3-4 more shots per game in Houston.

 

Yes of course, but even that requires Harden to initiate it. When the ball swings and ends up in another playmaker's hands, Harden (and the rest of the team) don't do much, just sort of watch. Even guys like Jones and Brewer just take the ball and don't pass because there's no motion/play running for them to feed.

 

The Rockets also got decimated by injuries this year. Maybe they don't need the Pelicans to beat the Spurs in their final game if Dwight and T-Jones don't each miss half the season. And let's not forget that their offseason plans last summer blew up in their face. They were a work in progress most of the year as they dealt with neverending injuries and acquired additional pieces like Brewer, Smith, and even Pepperoni. Shoot, Capela didn't even work his way into the rotation until April(and might not have had T-Jones not sustained a collapsed lung).

This summer, the Rockets are operating from a much stronger position. They won more regular season games and their division. They won 2 playoff series. They have much better depth and an improved defense. And they managed to not only finally win a game against the Clippers who'd owned them for 2 straight seasons, but they even knocked them out in the postseason. Now all that stands in our way is the Warriors(and maybe the Thunder if they can get their roster healthy and the Spurs if they somehow manage to reload).

There's no need to panic if we lose this series and gut the team in order to get another big name player. We tried that last summer and it was a disaster. Maintain this foundation and build off of it. Don't tear it down and try to remake it.

 

Wrong, the Warriors are not the only thing left that is in our way. Every year going forward there is going to be 3-4 similar caliber teams in our way, which we may not have the luck to beat, as we did this year. We need a huge talent upgrade to be the favorites to win on a consistent basis.

And you have gone into hyperbole mode here. No one is panicking and no one is tearing down anything. Adding Kevin Love is not panicking, nor is moving Ariza tearing anything down. Taking one step back in the short term, to take 3 steps forward in the long term is the logical move and that is of course the approach Morey will take.

Last offseason was hardly a disaster. We swung for the fences, with a suitable backup plan in place. There was nothing wrong with that approach, as it was big reward and low risk. We ARE maintaining our foundation and we WOULD be building off it.

I swear to god it baffles my brain how all you fans did nothing but b**** and moan all season long about how we were going to be a first round out and how everything about our team was terrible, yet now that an opportunity to upgrade might be here, we are now some perfect team that must be maintained at all costs. I will never understand how you people can never seem to think critically.

 

Love would be the perfect #3 guy, and great in our offense.

I'm in.

 

A reasonable breakdown. It needs to be a "system," something that is practiced and habitual.

 

Kevin Love would be a huge upgrade at the PF position as far as scoring and rebounding, but not defense. He'd also cost a lot. The rockets really need depth at guard that isn't 38 years old.

 

As good as an opportunity this may be, I don't think it's the right time unfortunately for us to try and get him.

We would have to get rid of all of the players that got us to the western conference finals with all their hard work. Some of those guys are keepers.

That said Morey still needs to see what he can do.

 

I can see the defensive downgrade being as large or larger than the upgrade on offense (Ariza -> ?; Smith/Jones -> Love).

 

On the offensively side of the ball he'd be the number 2 guy actually, especially in the regular season. Also could be a back up 5 for us when Howard is injured or in foul trouble. While Ariza to me is not as valuable as everyone thinks he is with Kevin Love his value goes up. Scoring is less of a problem on Houston and they need a defender/hustle guy. That said I would not mind replacing Ariza with Demarre Carroll even without Kevin love.

 

Kevin love is similar to Dwight in a way. They both got on teams that weren't a good fit so to speak also they both got talked about not being the same player or as dominant because of the bad fit. And they both got killed by their respective teams because one of injury and the team is now in the finals and the other got ejected in the last playoff game. Can anybody help me out? Or does anybody see where I'm going with this? Once love goes to a place where he is happy and wanted and appreciated I think we will all see the real Kevin love.

 

Nope.

We're talking about Dwight, Love, Smith instead of Dwight, Terrence, and Smith. Or even Dwight, DMo, Smith.

You get Harden, Love, Dwight together and you can sign a third veteran defensive big to play behind them. Brandon Wright, Robin Lopez, etc.

 

kevin love is an elite post player, as well as a spot up shooter, the problem is he'd break our defense, because you can't switch with him and not expect an easy basket

 

How do we utilize Love more effectively than how he's been used in Cleveland? There he's primarily a spot up shooter and has very little chemistry with Lebron. Seems like a waste of his talent, but he's noticeably less effective with the ball than either Lebron or Irving. Is he a 2nd option here by default? Or does his rebounding and range benefit us more than it does the Cavs?

 

You completely missed the part about losing Ariza?

 

I believe the name of the game would be to sign Love then trade DMo+ other assets for a starting caliber PG. Re-sign Smoove and boom, you have a rotation of:

Kyle Lowry/Rookie
Toronto obviously doesn't have a championship level core. They agree to a trade involving D-Mo, Ariza and Papanikolau for Lowry.
James Harden/KJ McDaniels
Corey Brewer/KJ McDaniels
Kevin Love/Josh Smith
Dwight Howard/Clint Capela

Salary Cap Breakdown:
Lowry 12,000,000
Harden 15,719,062
Brewer (Use bird rights to re-sign)
McDaniels (Use bird rights to re-sign)
Love 15ish million dollars
Sign Smoove to about 2 millionish a year
Salary dump Terrence and Joey in a package deal
Howard 22,359,364

All we need is Love to take a pay cut for a year! Josh too!

This isn't looking likely.

 

Someone posted a way to get Aldridge or Love without trading Ariza. Why is everyone ignoring that very detailed post?