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Sources: Some issues between Harden and Howard (don't hang out anymore)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cyberx, May 24, 2015.

  1. Beardaholic13

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    Valid points....still this couldnt wait 2 days? or whenever we do get eliminated? i mean all the ponts you stated are offseason related , we are still in the season, down0-3 but still playing basketball...
    Timing is way off and even then only justification to moves we make in the offseason should be basketball related , not anything else.
    Resigning Smith, cuz hes a much better fit then Jones not cuz hes howards best friend.
    Prepare us for a public blowout?? i ighly doubt that given that we might have "overachieved" in most eyes
    Trading players? thats still atleast a month down the line.

    We ARE playing game 4 tonight man...and obviously most have given up, but i havent i want to see a game 4 win ffs, concentrate on how to adjust to GS's adjustments game 3 and all this can be opened after we are eliminated
     
  2. roxallways

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    The purpose of this thread wreaks of being messy/**** starting instead of being informative.
     
  3. TMAC3

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    I'm calling BS. When has this guy ever been right? I know more people inside the Rockets than Cyberx
     
  4. a711

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    Cyberx jumped the shark with this thread
     
  5. HTown_TMac

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    Going off of the original post..
    Harden hangs out with the team, Dwight.. not so much.
     
  6. MistaK

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    Why do people keep saying this? Do you know Howard or Harden personally??? I'm sure that both of them want to win a championship. Why do you think that Harden is more concerned about individual success than winning a championship?? Because he is younger or individually hasn't achieved as much as Howard? The guy already has a max contract, he has been an All-Star since coming to Houston, has won the 6th man award, is the runner-up MVP, has been NBA First team for 2 consecutive years and is considered by most to be one of the top offensive weapons in the league and the top dog on this Houston team. He is only now entering his prime and will most certainly get another max contract no matter what. That's plenty of recognition already. Considering those things it's hard to see why he would be concerned with individual success over winning it all.

    Why can't you be young, maybe even be concerned about individual success, and want to win a championship at the same time? Those guys grow up playing ball - they are competitors. So if I were to assume anything at all, it is that at least 95% (and NO I don't have any data supporting this assumption) of the players in the NBA want to win a championship, no matter how young or inexperienced. Hell if I participate in a tournament, be it basketball, tennis or whatever - and I do it for fun only - I get competitive and want to win. I'm assuming the desire to win for a professional will be much much higher!
     
  7. DenisM

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    Of course, it's just my personal opinion. I am talking from my perspective. I just don't see the fire in Harden yet. He hasn't sacrificed for winning. I loved how Harden played defense at the start of the season and I was confident that if he continues to do that, we are going to win it all. I am not saying that Harden is bad or that Dwight is perfect. But, Dwight sacrificed, we are seeing what we always wanted to see. Play defense, rebound and on offense just set picks and lobs/putbacks. Like someone said, if there are issues between two of them, maybe they came from the fact that Howard is tired of Harden not playing defense. Don't get me wrong, I love Harden and Dwight, but I just think that Harden is not interested in winning as Dwight is.
     
  8. vlaurelio

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    LOL you act like Howard never takes defensive plays off

    And yeah harden sg with most assists is not about winning
     
  9. malakas

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    Info is info. It's not cyber's fault if most people here are immature to handle it without attacking the messenger.
    Won't affect to the least what goes on the court as it has been going on for a while according to Cyber's info. Us knowing it won't affect the interactions of the players.
    I haven't given up either and this info doesn't affect my beliefs at all. It just adds to my perspective of the team.
     
  10. TMac'n

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    Two words = DAN FEGAN /thread
     
  11. AirBud#10

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    Watching someone shoot 40% from the FT line with your success/reputation on the line can get old really ****ing fast.
     
  12. Amir's Johnson

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    He's telling the truth. I heard yesterday there were chemistry issues with the team, I didn't know who was involved. Also heard they can't even get through practice without fighting.
     
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  13. Play07

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    I blame smith, if you watch closely harden doesn't like to pass the ball to smith (Never know with his T.Os, ball hog 3) sure harden wants a upgrade there, and you know he doesn't pass to Howard much.

    He never throws that post entry ever
     
  14. DaDakota

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    Not surprised, both seem immature and a bit lacking in leadership and mental toughness.

    If Harden was was any kind of leader he would try to get Howard onside, and tell the rest of the team to stop whining about another important player.

    Getting Smith probably upset the Apple cart a bit too as he is Howard's best friend, chemistry is so important.

    Also a good coach would recognize and try to work it out.

    DD
     
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  15. Liberon

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    That final play in game 2 where Dwight passes it back to James instead of up ahead to Jones or whoever for a layup is the critical scenario that could cause such a rift. As hard as Dwight plays his B-Ball IQ sucks..
     
  16. HR Dept

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    Even if true, this is still a non story. Of course things are dicey right now. Of course tempers probably flared. Of course they probably dislike the teamates that they normally like and hate the ones that they normally just dislike.

    Two bad breaks in game one and two, then a blowout in game three on your court. I would see more of an issues if there wasn't news of people getting pissed and hating each other.

    How they respond throughout the remainder of this series and the offseason entering next season is all that matters. Will they grow or crater? Because growth likely equals a championship.
     
  17. robbie380

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    Well good....their defense has looked like **** so someone on the team should be pissed about it
     
  18. JoeBarelyCares

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    Free agency 2016: Exit Dwight, enter Durant.
     
  19. Aruba77

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    on one hand i think this is a non-story. the best chemistry is winning; and we're not winning right now. So now the sniping starts.

    Keeping this in perspective, we just put together the greatest comeback in Houston Rockets history, and one of the best in NBA history. It takes chemistry to do that. Also, you don't have to be close off the court to have good chemistry on the court. Harden and Dwight are pretty independent guys, and they both care about winning more than whining; i honestly believe that. This will sort itself out. I don't think we can say one way or the other, whether Dwight will be here long-term, but frankly, that would be the case even if there was no Harden-Howard spat.

    To me, this is a team that's demoralized and chippy and so things are going south in the locker room, but i don't think that's abnormal; I don't think it's a sign of some deeper problem, not with the way we came together the first two series.
     
  20. Play07

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    If you don't like cyberx post #1 don't reply to them should be a RULE around here!!

    Clutch has already put it out there that he knows the guy personally and vouches for him.

    We all are going to begging for info when the season is over, so unless you wanna wait for codman figure it out games or his post after something happens stuff, docs riddles, batman I ate dinner with morey stuff... Just chill...

    I know we don't like like cyberx bad news but just don't critize him he's been too valuable, in these clutchfans streets, he's earned his respect don't turn on the guy.He was just rooting for us saying we got this Mavs series
     

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