No, there is just a vocal minority known as Social Justice Warriors also known as r****ded "feminists" who get butt hurt over absolutely anything and everything. Notice how they didn't bat an eye when Theon had his wanker cut off by the big bad Ramsay. Why? Because they are hypocrites and idiots.
This, she probably never really watched it, heard about the rape and now wants to start a war. Cersei getting raped on the deathbed of her son was no deal, BUT NOW OHMYGAWD NOT ON HER WEDDDING NIGHT!!! Hate these poor z-list celebrities that desperately try to make headlines.
Agreed. My issue is about the Sansa Character I thought she had shown more growth I was waiting on her to manipulate the situation She needs to show some growth like someone said. . she shut down ole girl in the bath For once showing a spine Then this happens. . . . .. Rocket River
What you just said sort of ties into the complaint people have about the Sansa scene, you just don't realize it. I said from the beginning that my complaint about the Sansa scene wasn't that it was sexual violence. There's tons of that in this show, as there should be considering the setting. However, with Sansa the plot is just foolish. Littlefinger's machinations look "smart" only because the writers set it all up in ridiculous ways. The reality is that him leaving the Vale with the heir under control of Lord Royce was stupid. Him taking Sansa to Winterfell was stupid. Leaving her there was stupid. Highlighting how stupid it was is that they had to bend time and space to move Littlefinger all over the continent in order to put the pieces into place. They also had to just conveniently brush aside the fact that Sansa was married to Tyrion Lannister. All this to setup a rape scene that will help propel her revenge storyline I guess. It could have been done better. It's just stupid storytelling.
Thanks for pointing this out, very odd that they show Sansa finally becoming a strong female character, then that...
Sure she is married to him, but the show writers just brushed it over with Littlefinger assuring Roose Bolton that Sansa was a virgin. It was weaksauce. Not only was it weak sauce, it's hard to imagine Roose Bolton actually being stupid enough to do it. He'd have to realize that it was an act of war. Now, in the show it's ok because the Tyrells and Lannisters are at each others throats, so the armies are splintered, but Roose Bolton would have no way of knowing that (neither would Littlefinger) and they certainly couldn't predict it. It's just a convenient plot device that worked out. Otherwise you'd be in a situation where Roose Bolton is Warden of a fractured North with a seriously reduced army at his command with Stannis marching him on from the North and a Lannister/Tyrell army from the South.
What was gratuitous about that scene? They showed literally nothing. All the head chopping, throat slitting and man asses were just part of the show. But Ginger Stark consummating the marriage with her husband off screen is over the line? The people complaining must not have watched Oz, Sopranos, Spartacus, Walking Dead, etc. The violence and sex in those popular shows are very comparable.
I think there is something about if you do not consummate the marriage it is not official or something. Tywin kept telling Tyrion that.
The deal is, it's just a bit of a turnoff. My wife is about to give up on the show because she doesn't know how much more bull-shiznit the Starks should be made to suffer before they get their comeuppance. I still like the show, and it's obvious you have to sit through the occasional crap scene that sets up a later payoff (even if some of them are telegraphed); but these producers Benioff and Whomever are feeling their oats too much and need to get this train back on track. I am hoping for some butt-kicking last episodes because so far we have few high points (great imagery of cities; the Stone Men) and some real disappointments (Selmy's demise; the cool-in-the-books, kinda-dumb-onscreen Sand Snakes).
I will admit that the plot deviating from the books has really kicked up the Deus Ex Machina in the show.
Exactly. I'm not a book reader so I wasn't upset that the Sansa storyline is different from the book, I don't even care if they went the marriage route and the marital rape route. My problem is the storyline just doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense that Brienne happened to be within feet of Sansa stark on the road. It doesn't make sense that she and Pod (who was WALKING!) ended up at the same tavern as Littlefinger and Sansa (Who were in carriages escorted by mounted knights!) It's just too contrived. And it's frustrating that in this contrived storyline they went down this road with Sansa.
The Starks irriate me. They're losers. One wonders how they became a great house in the first place. The perpetual bad choice making (honor over reality and plain naivety) is just dumb especially in the world they're living in. The only person with the right killer mentality Ayra. Even if they do get their dues in the end, it would be like the Revenge of the Nerds... yes, they beat the cool kids, but they're still nerds. You feel for them because of pity not respect. I want Tyrion takes it all in the end. He's my favorate because he's got just the right balance of intelligence, basis on reality and compassion. Of course, that's not going to happen
Here's another issue with the Littlefinger scheme that is driving me crazy: Cersei summons him to make sure the Knights of the Vale will fight for the crowd if war comes to Westeros again. (Obviously a concern with what she is doing with the Tyrells) Without saying yes, he gives her faith that he will fight for her. Within seconds though, he has basically giving him permission to take those same Knights north to Winterfell to crush the winner of Stannis/Boltons. This makes no sense! I mean it does if you assume the Knights of the Value get to travel at LittlefingerSpeed and just teleport to Winterfell, crush the winner there and then teleport back before the Tyrells can take King's Landing. She NEEDS the Knights of the Value to hedge against House Tyrell. She can't afford to send them into the North and she certainly can't afford them to go North and LOSE! Just a bunch of dumbness.
How? By saying it? He can say it as much he wants, and a Lannister loyalist can claim they witnessed Tyrion bed Sansa. Regardless, Roose Bolton chose war with the Lannisters. It potentially made sense initially if he was going to use Sansa to rally the Northern lords to fight Stannis, but now he still has to fight Stannis without telling anyone about Sansa. It's just a plot device that doesn't really make sense to me.
I don't think it had to have been construed as an act of war. Cersei took it as one because Littlefinger couched it that way and intimated that Bolton was scheming. Had Littlefinger instead presented the information as a vassal shoring up his position to assure the allegiance of the North to the crown, she could react differently. I agree; showing nothing but a bare back doesn't really fit my definition of gratuitous. And, I'm not sure I would call it much of a rape either. She knew the drill when she agreed to the marriage. She was expecting to have sex Ramsey. The only part she wasn't too cool with was Theon watching. That's a bit of an exploitation. But she consented to sex with Ramsey in general beforehand. A better approach story-wise would have been to have a Septa do a physical examination and declare her hymen wasn't broken.
