Terrence Jones can not be a starter on a championship caliber team.

The issue with that is that Jones hasn't shown any improvement since his rookie season, in any area. He hasn't learned any of the mental side of that game whatsoever and is still just getting by on hustle and athleticism which leads to inconsistent results. If he's not going to progress as a player, he's not worth holding on to.

 

DD,


Jones got consistent minutes last season. You seen what happened against Portland in a 7-game series.

Jones averaged the same minutes this season as he did last season.


Jones has gotten consistent minutes.

 

Twisting arguments again. Par for the course.

The point was would the Warriors still be a contending team if you replaced Barnes with Jones.

If you really want to go with that and say openly that the Warriors would combust like rice in the belly of a Seagull than go ahead.

...........

Also you are defining yourself on what makes a Championship Caliber team. By your definition you can create whatever argument you want that suites your cause.

You are truly a piece of work Jopat. I'm glad to see that you are truly revealing yourself as an anti-fan admittingly so we can just get this out in the open right now shamelessly.

 

Terrence Jones starting for the W's would be a huge negative drag on them. They optimize space. They'd have the same thing happening to them that we have happening. They'd be playing 4 on 5 offensively. Their offense would bog down considerably. And defensively the opposing small forward would be torching Jones because Jones is not quick enough to defend 3's.

Kerr WOULD NOT let that happen. If Jones were on that roster instead of Barnes, Kerr would be starting Iggy and Jones would get mop-up minutes when the game was decided. Be real here dobro. If Tjones can't help us win a championship by being in the rotation then he for sure can't help the W's win one either if he were in their rotation.

Your lack of definition of what a championship caliber team is means anybody can interpret "championship caliber team" by any definition they want to. So you can go on continually arguing for Jones being a championship caliber player. Which he is not.


When you go to the anti-fan card........only you lose dobro. Only you.


Answer these questions, dobro.

1. Should McHale continue to run Terrence out there for 20+ minutes a game if Dwight/Smith/Capela are healthy enough to play?

2. Who can Jones check effectively on the Warriors team?

3. Can we beat the Warriors if Jones is playing 20+ minutes a game in our rotation against them?



Would love to read your "untwisted" responses.

 

Wait what? You think the Warriors would still be contending if you replaced their starting SF that is a 40% 3 point shooter with a PF that can't shoot the 3? Can you imagine how awful that move would make their spacing and defense? Jones isn't even starter quality at his own position, he's not starting out of position on even a good team.

You might want to re-think that.

 

Have I done anything to personally insult you? What gives?

 

I am way too nice to him.

 

The definition of championship caliber???... how about a team that has the ability to win a championship? If the Rockets do not have the ability to win a championship than I do not know who does. They win this series, and its theirs to lose.

If they aren't by your definition a contending team then I don't know who is.

And yes I am more than comfortable calling you out as an anti-fan. You root for yourself and your internet pride. You are unable to call the Rockets a contending team when they are in the Western Conference Finals with a real ability to finally get back to the promise land. Jones is part of the team, and a valuable contributor and you just cannot accept that because of a bet you made with the internet years ago, and you put your gamble on players that you knew the Rockets would have so you could always be right. Even if Jones hit the winning shot in the finals to hoist the trophy, you'd find a way to avenge your internet pride, and slam Jones.

You are the definition of an anti-fan. Internet pride before truly supporting the team you act like you support. Its sad, but its the new reality we live in.

 

Jones is just inconsistent. This game he was us calling for his head but I'll bet he's have at least one game this series where he looks damn good.

 

Ahhhhhhh, we agree.


So if the Rockets don't win this series then they aren't championship caliber. Because by your definition a team that doesn't even get to the Finals has NO CHANCE to win a championship.

By the way, I took the time, courtesy, and effort to answer your question. The least you could do is answer mine.

1. Should McHale continue to run Terrence out there for 20+ minutes a game if Dwight/Smith/Capela are healthy enough to play?

2. Who can Jones check effectively on the Warriors team?

3. Can we beat the Warriors if Jones is playing 20+ minutes a game in our rotation against them?

 

Honestly, if we keep Smith I can see us dealing Jones, etc for that added piece.

 

But Jones is still young.....

 

Can you and Jopat just post on the same screen name? It would be alot easier on everyone.

Replacing Barnes with Jones on that team with the MVP, another MVP candidate, a DPOY candidate, an COY candidate, creates a catastrophe that puts them that far down that they are now unable to contend for a championship?? Geez the definition of "Contender" becomes just whatever you guys want to make of it.

I never said it wouldn't hurt the Warriors to replace Barnes with Jones or even Green with Jones. What I said was would they still be a contender? Is he that much of an on-the-court, and off-the-court cancer that he drags all of that talent to the bottom of the barrel?

FYI you guys are completely out of your mind with your vendetta against Jones. yes he had a sh#% game last night. Yes, the Rockets would be better off with an upgrade. Nobody on earth is denying that.

The point however is that he IS, and CAN BE a contributor on a championship contending team because THE ROCKETS ARE a CONTENDING TEAM because they are doing it right now with Jones as a contributor.

So support the team and support Jones as he is part of the team please. This Summer when we know the status of the other PF's or status of potential true upgrades than we can all sh$% on Jones. Right now, we need the guy to play well in his role in order to win.

Please... support the kid, or leave it be for a few weeks.

 

*chuckle*
Ahhh. . . ... . you been waiting so long for this. . . . . . . .. .
I hope you enjoying it

Rocket River

 

Not one bit. Very frustrated actually. Because it's so obvious. And I want to win a championship.

 

THIS!
I think the only issue with TJones is his motor
He needs to be STRONGER . .. mentally and physically
He needs to be pushed and shoved and jostled all summer
so he can get use to it. . .
He needs to get pissed and try to slam players in the hoop with the ball

His Motor and His WILL OF FIRE need to rev up

Rocket River

 

Jones has tons of potential but he's so strange as a player. Some nights he'll play really BIG and with POWER and then other times he plays so small and weak like last night. It's been a tough your for the kid so I'm not going to be too hard on him. I do hope the light bulb turns on for him soon. He has the potential to be a 6th man of the year type of player for the Rockets.

He's the type of player you need to be a championship contender. If you have talent like that as your 6th, 7th, 8th player that's means you're a really good team. We need T Jones to reach his potential full time.

 

LOL.


When is the last time you saw a player get his motor fixed??? Tell me who and when????



LOL


You're not fixing 13% with motor either.


LOL.....motor.

We're playing the Conference Finals. Kinda late for motor fix'n.

LOL

 

No... not at all. If you are in the conference finals you absolutely have a shot at winning a championship. If the final 4 don't have a chance than I don't know who does.

Yeah, you can say that an 8th seed who is clearly over-matched and undermanned has little to no shot, but a Western Conference finalist... YES THEY FREAKING HAVE A SHOT.

If they don't than nobody else does either, and your definition is ridiculous. Championship contender is only then reserved for teams who end up winning the title. In that case the 2011 Heat weren't "Championship Caliber". The 2013 Spurs weren't "Championship Caliber". There was never a "Chance" either of those teams could win.

Apparently under your definition there was never an opportunity or chance they could have won it because they didn't end up winning it. That's like saying that because my car broke down on my way to work, that I was never truly on my way to work, and there was never a chance that my car operated correctly and got me to work.

The Rockets have a chance. Some would a good chance, or as good of a chance as anyone not named the Warriors. Especially with a win tomorrow night if they can split the GS home-stand.

1. Should McHale play Jones.... Well yes. You sort of have to. The guy has been up and down but his ups lend the team enough positives to make a difference just as he did in the Clippers series.

Its a gamble to play him as it is Smith, but they are the guys you have. Unless someone better is walking through that door than yes you have to play your backup/starter/rotation PF who just so happens to be Terrence Jones as much as it pains you.

2. Who can effectively check the Warriors regardless? Its going to take a team effort to defend them. Have to get crafty, and make Curry/Thompson uncomfortable.

If Jones is on the floor Green or Barnes seem like the players you'd have him matched up with. The Rockets switch everything so obviously he's going to be guarding everyone when they switch. That includes Curry, Thompson, and Livingston at times. He's going to have to play out of his mind to even slow those guys down. But they are the best regular season team in the NBA for a reason.

3. Yes... I believe the Houston Rockets and their current rotation can beat the Golden State Warriors and their current rotation.

Are you saying you do not believe the Houston Rockets' current rotation cannot beat the Golden State Warriors current rotation?

And you laugh at me questioning what kind of fan you are?

 

I have started very plainly multiple times now that if Terrence is in the top 7 in minutes played we WILL NOT win a championship. Don't know how much clearer I can state that.

And your logic leads you to conclude from that statement that I'm not a fan.

#twistedlogic