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Terrence Jones can not be a starter on a championship caliber team.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mdoggnic, May 3, 2014.

  1. hashmander

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    he's not coming along nicely. he's the same dumb, soft player he was 2 years ago. he'll score his points off put backs (when there isn't a player around to scare him into blowing the layup) and grab clear rebounds, but not when contested by another big because he will just be pushed under the basket. get some flashy block shots or try to block a shot that dwight/clint, etc are already trying to block and forget his boxout assignment and then they score after getting their shot blocked anyway.

    if he was smart and soft it would be one thing but he's not too bright out there.
     
  2. basketballholic

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    Terrence cannot be a starter nor a top rotation player on a championship caliber team.

    If Terrence Jones' minutes are in the top 7 of this Rockets team at the end of the playoffs, you can bet your eye teeth we didn't win a championship. Only chance we have to win a championship is if we drop Terrence's minutes below 7th highest to 8th or lower. Even with this team depleted with injuries to DMo and Bev. Right now, Terrence has played the 6th most minutes for us in this year's playoffs. His minutes need to move below Pablo and Smith and Pablo need to surpass him in minutes played. And McHale should have Capela as his first big off the bench. That is if Dwight can still play. If Dwight can't play.....we're done anyways.

    And if this team were healthy....Terrence would be the 9th to 11th man. That tells you where he is headed.
     
  3. Htownballer38

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    Why do the wolves come out after a loss. Jones played big in a few games against the Clippers in which helped us to make it to the WCF. Yes he had a terrible 2nd half of basketball. But you gents really needs to chill out with all this hate in your hearts. What will you say if he has a better game 2? Will you'll come on here and give the man his props?
     
  4. LCAhmed

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    All this scapegoat nonsense is starting to get old real quick. Jones didn't play well, I get it. Guess who else had bad moments in the game? More than just Jones. (See what I did there, I didn't isolate someone because that's a DICK move). It's a TEAM SPORT, we Ride together and Die together.
     
  5. mdoggnic

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    Honestly, I don't feel near as bad about TJones as I did at this point last year. He has made huge improvements in his game(mainly he is a lot more consistent with his energy level). However, games like last night remind me that point guard and power forward should be our two top priorities this offseason. Don't get me wrong, I think we can still beat Golden State(my opinions on this team are different from last year. Namely, I think we can win it all). I'm just not convinced that TJones is ever gonna be a big game player.
     
  6. Man

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    TJones will come back strong next game. He knows what he needs to do (just freakin finish down low man), and fight for boards.
     
  7. EightDoobies

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    Jones just need to attack. Stop worrying about getting blocked. GSW ain't a shot blocking team.
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    The guy is 22 years old, has motor issues, but is a nice player.

    DD
     
  9. mdoggnic

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    Your post is a DICK move.
     
  10. mdoggnic

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    How long are we gonna use his age as a crutch for his motor issues? At some point he either gets it or he doesnt.
     
  11. SooneRockStro

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    TJ went 2/10 from the field last night. That's beyond horrid for a big man. Dude sucks at finishing. He can be a nice player at times, but last night he was a huge negative, moreso than any other player. There were at least two 4-5 point swings where he would miss a chip shot that turned into a GS run out for a wide open shot. Obviously he can't be completely blamed for the loss as it's a team sport, but he didn't help the team at all. Hoping he bounces back in Game 2, because there is no one else to stick in there right now without a healthy Dwight.
     
  12. basketballholic

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    Championship caliber teams get to the Finals! Or at the very least they are previous champions or Finals participants that have already proven themselves by getting to the Finals! They might not win the Finals. But they'll get there and be very competitive with moments where the series is in doubt.

    A team that fails to get to the Finals IS NOT a championship caliber team.

    Terrence is neither a starter now. Nor can he be and us get to the Finals. In fact, we won't get to the Finals if we play Terrence over 20 minutes a game against the Warriors in this Conference Finals. So the fact remains Terrence can neither start nor be a primary rotation player on a championship caliber team.
     
  13. Beardaholic13

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    I won't count the dallas series since anyone in this world should post good number vs dirk and charlie villanueva but even then he posted 13 pts and 6 reb on 41 percent shooting 25min per game....ok numbers vs a real bad defensive team
    LA Clippers
    Game 1 vs LA: 1-6 4pts 3 reb 17 min
    Game 2vs LA: 4-10 !0 pts 8 reb 27 min
    Game 3 vs LA: 4-10 12 pts 2 reb 26 min
    Game 4 vs LA 5-12 10 pts 6 reb 25 min
    BENCHED
    Game 5 5-8 12 pts 5 reb 25 min
    Game 6 6-8 16pts 5 feb 22 min
    Game 7 4-10 8 pts 3 reb 22 min

    Game 1 vs GS
    2-10 5 pts 4 reb 26 min

    So what does this say....he isn't no where near a starter, plays better vs backups...and he's a BIG deterrent to this team and its paramount he sees the bench more then he does now for us to do something...those numbers are utter **** when u think most of his shots are open or within 5 feet...when will ppl understand its not about TJONES its about HOUSTON i want to win and he's not the way to do it its obvious ...painfully obvious
     
  14. RESINator

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    He is the new "Chandler Parsons" pump fake at the 3pt line then drive.
     
  15. LCAhmed

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    Okay...

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    Only BBHollic would justify that the 2nd best team left in the playoffs is NOT a championship caliber team.

    Who the F Is then? There are 4 teams left. 2 are clearly worse than the Rockets. The Rockets hung in with the clear favorites last night, and showed that they can beat them.

    Jones couldn't be the starter for the Warriors? If they replaced Harrison Barnes with Jones they would drop to the bottom of the barrels and suddenly become a lottery team?

    Get your head out of your A$% dude. You lost your bet on Jones. You aren't getting out of this one trying to defend your position without looking like a hard headed crazy person.

    Yes... Jones has his flaws, and is up and down in big moments. But THE TEAM can win with him in his role. That has been proven time and time again.

    Give it the F Up, and STOP this stupid smear campaign please. If you can't support this team right now... THE ENTIRE TEAM then you are just the worst freaking fan, and make me sick. Please go away with anti-fans.
     
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  17. mollamar

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    Thanks for the numbers. My sense is that he never returned to the form that he had late last year and early this year, when he could score in the mid-teens with 5-6 boards. He seems to have regressed badly since coming back from his two injuries this season, and looks tentative and a bit lost out there. He still gets to the rim, but doesn't seem willing to elevate.
     
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    The 2 teams that come out of these Conference Finals and make it to the Finals along with the Spurs are the only championship caliber teams in the NBA at present. You cannot proclaim a team championship caliber when they can't even make it out of the conference and have never made it out of the conference as constructed. There is some question as to whether the Spurs are championship caliber this season. But they have at least proven they can get there. Nobody else has.



    Before these playoffs started, you could look at all the playoff teams save for possibly the Pels, Mavs, Bucks, and Nets....and make a case in your head and in print that they COULD get to the Finals. That does not mean they are championship caliber. 7-game playoff series have a way of separating the true championship caliber teams from the pretenders.


    No, Jones could not and more importantly WOULD NOT start for the Warriors. No way, no how. He would not nor could he effectively replace Barnes. Kerr wouldn't even think about it. It's comical to even consider.


    This team cannot and will not win a championship with Jones playing top 7 in minutes. He'll have to be 8 or lower in minutes played for us to have a chance.
     
  19. mdoggnic

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    Nice response Richard
     
  20. DaDakota

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    Bigs take a bit longer especially when their minutes are inconsistent...

    DD
     

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