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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Wattafan, May 17, 2015.

  1. malakas

    malakas Member

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    I said that the Rockets should ignore Bogut on defense and have one player freelancing. I said that Iggy is not to be feared at all and should be guarded by Harden. I repeatedly said that Bogut is fragile like porcelain and that his time is coming.(I will never cheer for an injury but what comes comes.).

    So stop calling out anyone who doesn't just say the great argument of : We came back from 3-1 we have nothing to fear- which has nothing to do with the specific matchup strategically- and start watching some Griz- Warriors to see what your enemy has done.
    Respect and right assesment of your opponent is NOT fear. It's the way to victory.
     
  2. DavidRocket

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    And on the same token, the Warriors need to pay attention to what their enemy (Rockets) have done as well. You can't call it one way and not the other. If you don't think the Rockets "should" strike fear into the Warriors, then you're just a naive as their fans.

    For the Warriors' sake, they ought not let this Cinderella season get to their heads (might be a bit late for that with ESPN etc), because if they underestimate the Rockets, they are in for a real rude awakening.
     
  3. DavidRocket

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    wait a minute, be honest here, are you a Bogut fan because of his ties to the Bucks?
     
  4. Layup Drill

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    if the rocketes turn the ball over like they did against the clippers there will be huge problems.

    Lets hope brewer and ariza's length give curry/thompson some problems. Hopefully they don't gamble in the passing lanes and get burned too much.
     
  5. tmac2k8

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    One other thing, when Dwight played Golden State earlier in the year, first he wasn't healthy but also he had not bought into the idea of being a pure rim protector and pick n roll player. He was still trying to do post moves which he is horrible at. Of course it looked like he got dominated by bogut because he did. It looks as if he's getting dominated all the time because he has no post moves. Let's see if Bogut contain him now that he's not BSing around anymore trying to look like Dream.
     
  6. malakas

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    Is this the Warriors forum? No. Who gives a crap what the warriors and their fans will think or say. It would be better if they don't prepare at all and take the win for granted. In either case this is the first game and the adjustments will come later. So this is the Rockets forum and we are talking about what the Rockets SHOULD do. Not what the Warriors should do.

    What exactly lead you to that conclussion?
    Was it the fact that I called him twice dirty and sneaky ?
    Was it the fact that I warned about flopping and taunting his way into Dwight's head?
    Or the fact that I said that he breaks down every playoff time?
    What was it exactly that gave me away as a Bogut fan??????


    /sarcasm
     
  7. pippendagimp

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    i think giannis alphabet got there the year after bogut was already gone
     
  8. malakas

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    Yup. Traded Bogut for Ellis instead of Curry because of his ankles. Worst FO decision of the decade.
     
  9. Codman

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    I know exactly what I was comparing, but backcourts also include tweeners and guys out of position. Mike has played SG in the past. Look it up.

    Anyway, I'll say a healthy DRose and Jimmy Butler are better defensively than Conley and Allen. And, both can score just as well.

    And, don't underestimate the improvement in defense of John Wall and Beal.

    For defense, I'd even say Avery Bradley is a better on-the-ball defender than Conley. It's not all numbers. You have to watch these guys play.

    I feel like you're trying to put Conley and Tony in the same category of defense as Shane Battier, Ron Artest and Dennis Rodman. Those guys were GAME CHANGERS.

    Tony's best days were with the Celtics, with Doc, KG and PP. His speed has declined rapidly and his fouls can be pretty Josh Smith-like.

    I can't wait to see Curry try to defend James. His small frame will be destroyed.
     
  10. malakas

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    Not at all. I'm talking not about all time I'm talking about currently in this time in the league.
    Though I do consider Allen in his prime one of the best defensive sg on man defence all time.
    No I will take Conley+ Allen over Rose + Buttler right now. Rose defence is flunctuating from average to bad. He let scrubs like Delly and MCW own him in the playoffs. You don't let an undrafted second year player like Delly OWN you if you are good defender.
    I sincerely doubt that Curry will be put to guard Harden. That would be stupid. They will put Klay on him.
     
  11. DavidRocket

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    Speaking of which, Curry has been remarkably healthy all year. That is actually a bit of a surprise to me personally.
     
  12. hoopball

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    Golden State is way over-hyped and overrated imo, they basically played neck and neck with the Pelicans with the exception of game 4, and they struggled mightily against the Grizzlies when Tony Allen and Mike Conley were both on the court. They are not invincible, as a matter of fact, I kinda think they are an easier match up for us than the Clippers because they have no inside presence who can take advantage of our weak 4 spot.
     
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    Does anyone have the point differential when Dwight Howard is on the team? I think that number was in the 7s (games Dwight played during regular season) which would put the gap to where it wouldn't even be on that chart.
     
  14. hoopball

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    Stop bring in up regular season record and just look at how the current Warriors are playing in the playoffs. Frankly, I'm not that impressed. Pelicans almost had a shot for the first three games with the Warriors. The freakin' Pelicans! Warriors could not even dominate the Grizzlies when Tony Allen and Mike Conley were both on the court. Pelicans and Memphis are clearly not better than the Rockets, sure Grizzlies have superior perimeter defenders but they can't make threes to save their lives and their bigs are not as athletic and imposing as ours. I seriously think Clippers were more difficult match up for us than the current Warriors are. It sure ain't gonna be easy, but the media is making huge mistake by taking this series for granted, as usual. We'll see what happens.
     
  15. pippendagimp

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    this is at least the 3rd thread in which you've made the same exact post…..not good

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9785988&postcount=97
    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9785998&postcount=79
     
  16. Horry33

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    Like a lot of people I watched the warriors a lot this season. They love using bogut in the high post because he's a phenomenal passer. But he shoots so poorly that he won't even look at the basket. Rockets have to take advantage of his unwillingness to shoot and sag off him.
     
  17. JayGoogle

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    I said you were fair in your analysis. That post wasn't about you but more that other fans post here.

    I was talking more about Flop though. It just seems like a strong coincidence that he'd just be joining the forums this month and how the Rockets have no advantage in this series. They just read so in favor of the Warriors and many of the things he brings up are the very same things Warrior fans are saying now.

    Like the idea that they can just stick Bogut to Dwight and that's it. No more worries about Dwight.
     
  18. alethios

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    I was thinking this last night. We have the opportunity now to repeat history and bring back Clutch City. Wouldn't it be great to win and have McHale repeat the same Rudy T line, "don't ever underestimate the heart of a champion". **** the naysayers!
     
  19. Kwame

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    Trap Curry hard on the pnr because his lack of size and his tendency to get lazy with passes out of double teams. It also gets the ball out of his hands and then you take your chances with the other guys beating you. I'd rather the Rockets take that approach than letting Curry get his while attempting to neutralize the other players, because he will be able to beat his man off the dribble more often than not and create for himself and others.
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    GSW will be one of the best teams the Rockets have ever played in the post-season. Probably going back to the 1986 Celtics. That's the kind of match-up we're walking into

    No one is picking the Rockets. Heck, no one is picking the Warriors in 7 except David Thorpe. It's 5 or 6 across the board.

    We aren't the underdog, we're the mice being fed to an Anaconda. In other words, we don't stand a chance if you ask anyone who doesn't bleed Rockets Red.

    That's the reality. It's not because the playoffs are different. It's because they are just better by a wide margin and all evidence and everything everyone knows says that this will be a sleeper of the series and this will merely be another step on GSW rise to a championship...

    That's the reality. For the Rockets to win this series, it would be the greatest upset in NBA basketball history. On par with Denver upsetting Seattle all those years ago. It would be on that level.

    It will take something truly magical for us to win. If it happens, I will struggle to comprehend how it happened.
     

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