There is no rationale or logic when it comes to being fan, mainly because it is ultimately an entertainment that we are passionate about. For most of us who grew up watching the Rockets, it is a family thing at this point and like any good family, we always believe. This is an online community for ROCKETS fans, not player specific fans, not for trolls and haters, not for people who do not genuinely love and appreciate the professional basketball team called Rockets. Player only fans and haters rooting for our team to lose or perform badly will naturally be attacked and ostracized. No one said one should not be pissed by the piss poor effort shown by the team before last night, but there is a HUGE chasm between that and actively rooting for the team to lose or calling for boycotts. Those asshats DESERVE to be hated on and shamed IMO. There is no place in CF for people like that.
Great post. A fellow cf told me he went to a game and sat next to people wearing rockets gear. They only cheered when yao scored not when battier or anyone else. Those were not rockets fans
I can get on board with this to an extent. But when long time, reputable members are starting dozens of threads about firing McHale and Morey and getting rid of Harden, it doesn't help the overall environment whatsoever.
To further clarify, if you join up with any group, regardless if it is religious, philosophical, musical, or even your generic elementary school clique and shout out provocations that run counter to the group's belief, you WILL get retaliated on. This is a fundamental truth for humanity that has withstood the test of time. It's not just in sports or on our forum, though things have gotten more volatile as the internet has become more prevalent in everyone's every day life. If I go into a T-Mac forum and post about what a gutless loser he was, I would be smashed into the ground. The moral of all this is, don't stay where you are not wanted and definitely don't **** in someone else's place unless you want to get **** on in return.
Get every poster's SSN and run a security check. Then, screen all of their Facebook, Twitter, emails, and all online forum accounts, and phone records to filter any negativity against Rockets team, coaching staff, current and past players, front office, management, ownership, mascot, and this forum. Finally, make whoever is left (hopefully there are some, OP included) take oath for eternal loyalty. Afterwards, you will have a pure forum consists of sacred die-hard Rockets fans. Oh, don't forget to run this scan once a week to ensure it's up-to-date.
that's where we differ. i understand what you saying. and i dont have a problem w/ 'always believe'. its just not me. and not 'always believe' doesnt affect my passion for the team or bball as a sport. again, its quite personal and individual. expecting other fans to act/react the same way as oneself (not saying you are) is illogical and doesnt make any sense. but i digress. in a way, you're right, its kinda like a family thing. i'd like to add, that, it's also like a marriage. some choose to love no matter what, thru thick and thin until deaths do us apart; some choose a divorce under certain circumstances. i have been a married man for 20yrs and i dont feel any moral superiority over those who have divorced. same thing to sports fandom. it's the variety of individuality of the mass crowd that brings color to society and makes the world vivid and sensational, not the other way around. as such, i call for tolerance and mutual understanding - instead of the opposite. peace.
that's so common in any sport. i dont see anything wrong. you're not saying those types of fans cant go see a rockets game, are you? i bet if you are, les would be mad at you.
I don't expect everyone in the world to see the world as I do or react the way I do. I do however expect for visitors and members to understand that this is a ROCKETS forum and post in understanding and respect to that. I strongly believe that people should not force their way into a place where it is obvious they are not wanted and to leave when it is obvious they are not wanted. This is a time and a place for everyone, but that same time and place may not be for everyone. The ideology that you believe in does not apply to communities blinded together by specific interests or passions IMO.
You're telling me, if Hinkie and the 76ers develop a time machine, and we have a chance to go back in time to get Dream in his prime to join the current Rockets, all for the price of Harden, we shouldn't do that? I love Harden, but come on, there is only one Dream.
to me, if one cheers every time the rockets score/win, he's a rockets fan. this is my definition of a rockets fan, bandwagon or homer. it also applies to a fan of any individual player who happens to be on the team (or in other individual sports such as tennis). if the same person gets pissed and angry after a loss or when a rockets player is playing poorly, and comes here to post sth., he's still a rockets fan. this is a site for all sorts of fans. as long as we all act within the rules. this is why i generally wont like the sentiment of the op of this thread, though he might very well have a good intention.
I think we are confusing things here. No one is saying that people who get upset after bad losses or provide valid criticism or even criticism are not real fans. We are talking about the idiots that are calling for boycotts, the idiots who root for the Rockets to lose so the coach can be fired, the idiots who are rooting for Harden to be traded because they are too stupid to understand basketball. Those latter that I mentioned are NOT fans. Fans would never root for their team to lose in the playoffs, only if the team was actually trying to tank as we would then be rooting for the success of the strategy of the team. Also, this is NOT a site for all sorts of fans. This is a site for ROCKETS fans.
In every fan base there are going to be some overly emotional idiots that can't handle adversity. You lose when you let people over the ****ing internet get to you.
here's my take: root for the rockets to lose - cant be a rockets fan, under any circumstance. calling for boycotts - 'more probable than not' not a rockets fan. silly, too. wanting the coach fired or a player traded (even just because he doesnt like the coach or the player personally) - may or may not a fan. but this is not the yardstick. my understanding is this is a site for all sorts of rockets fans. shouldve made it clearer at the first place. let me know if i am wrong.
I agree with you in that case. All fans have their own ideas and perspective, but the common cloth that binds us is that we all love and believe in the Rockets. The ones who believe in the Rockets are simply the purest or truest fans IMO.
Most lost faith that we would win the series, but the posters write that all the players, the coach and the GM are stupid gutless losers who are lazy etc. are a problem.
That'd leave, what, 3 or 4 people on this board? We all know the bandwagon is the only way Houston fans like to ride.
