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Which starter is playing with the least energy?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by basketballholic, May 10, 2015.

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Which starter is playing with the least energy?

  1. Harden

    178 vote(s)
    59.3%
  2. Howard

    9 vote(s)
    3.0%
  3. Jones

    88 vote(s)
    29.3%
  4. Jet

    12 vote(s)
    4.0%
  5. Ariza

    13 vote(s)
    4.3%
  1. kchin

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    Its a tie between Ariza and J. Smith
     
  2. basketballholic

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    ROX PLAYOFF DEFENSIVE IMPACT NUMBERS

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    He has perfectly good size. I don't get what's your problem with his size. What did you expect? A 7 feet or 6'11 pf?

    And you know it's neither classy nor it helps you prove a point to go and make a thread after every time Jones has a string of bad games. Actions speak for themselves and piling on a guy when he's down never helps.
    I think this season went to waste for his potential improvement with his serious injury. He is still young. He definitely belongs in the NBA.
    It's his lack of improvement and addition of skills that should be worrying. Also his bball iq.
    I don't know but what about his work ethic? Is he a hard worker with a good head on his shoulders?

    And lastly it's NOT weird to blame Harden. This is Harden's team and he gets credit for the wins and blame for the losses. It's not on him but the focus is and should be on him. His play justifies critisism even if he wasn't a star. His defence is atrocious. He is the one to set the tone for the games and so far the Rockets haven't even come out to play.
    So let's not make Jones the scapegoat.
     
  4. Code Red

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    Harden
    He is too lazy to turn it up to the next level. He played better D in the regular season this time around, but when comes playoff time he doesn't want to use up too much energy when everyone is playing harder. How to win? Attack Harden and wear him down. Griffin posting him up and and Austin Rivers having a layup drill.
     
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    Here's my vote...
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    I expect him to be undersized and underskilled against the majority of Western Conference Playoff Team starting 4's. I have no idea why anybody would expect anything else. It blows my mind that McHale actually thinks he's good enough to start playoff games for us.

    He's either too small or not quick enough. Terrence is your classic tweener. Which would be okay if he had a skill set. But he don't. He's got tweener size with a mediocre to poor skill set. I expect he won't be starting for us next season. At last I hope not. Two seasons is enough. We can't wait another 2 or 3 years for him to develop. This was the season. It didn't happen. Time to move on. He isn't going to develop significantly next season. Sorry. Mark that down and revisit it. Remember I said it. He won't develop substantially next season. He simply doesn't have it.


    Yeah. This thread wasn't about Jones. It was about the ignorance of this message board. I knew they'd pick Harden as their chief whipping boy of lack of energy/effort. That is a farce. I don't make a thread every time Jones has a string of bad games. We are fixing to exit the playoffs Malakas. This isn't your team. Your team is Milwaukee. This is our team. And I sat here and watched a coach never make an adjustment other than hacking DeAndre. That's crap. And I have a right to say something about it.

    McHale (and Morey) have been jacking around with Terrence for the last 2 seasons. I knew this was going to happen. I knew we were gonna run out of steam because we were overmatched on the interior. Terrence has been the WORST STARTER and one of the WORST ROTATION PLAYERS in these playoffs. The numbers speak for themselves. The video clearly shows him not stepping up to help Dwight when Dwight had to step up against Blake multiple times. Video also shows Jones wilting on the interior repeatedly both defensively and offensively. He's probably had close to 20% of his shots BLOCKED down there this series. He's been terrible....awful this series. And he's hurt this team.

    Yet McHale goes on and on and on with him. Honestly, we'd be better off to start Capela alongside Dwight tomorrow night. Smith, Capela, Dorsey all have a better chance of being effective defensively than Jones does. Jones is lost out there. He's in a trance. Just gazing off into the wild blue yonder. It's ridiculous.

    I'm not putting this on Terrence. I'm putting this square on McHale. Terrence is what he is. McHale should've recognized it and done something about it long before now. Now it's too late.

    And over 60% off the fans here think it's Harden's fault. That's beyond ridiculous.

    Yeah, he's a hard worker....working at all the wrong things. He hasn't worked on his jump shot since he laced them up at Kentucky 5 years ago. If anything his jump shot mechanics have gotten even worse since he was in college. But we got him in the weight room pumping iron and stuff. What a joke. Dude has not improved in 3 seasons.



    It is not only weird to blame Harden. It's plum ignorant. He's played his butt off all season and now in the playoffs. Harden is the LAST ROCKET that should be criticized for his energy level. I'm shaking my head laughing at the ignorance on this board.

    The problem here is Harden is having to play 4 on 5 when Terrence is in the game. Terrence is not contributing on either end of the court. But over 60% of the fans here voted Harden as the guy lacking the most in energy. That is weird on so many levels. It is a farce. It is nuts. It is crazy. Nonsensical. I can't come up with enough negative adjectives to describe how foolish that is.
     
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    More sheer ignorance.

    I suspect the LOF's never left but are here deluging us with Harden negativity.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oh yeah, and TJones is basically worthless!! Good Lord...why is he even out there?</p>&mdash; Doc Rocket (@Thedocrocket) <a href="https://twitter.com/Thedocrocket/status/597587743007379457">May 11, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    Agree
     
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    Harden. Although we can't persecute him and him alone for this.

    I think Jones is really trying, he just isn't good enough at the moment, still adjusting to coming back after his injury.

    These last two games we have just been getting blatantly outplayed. And when you're beaten that mercilessly, it's hard to remain enthusiastic and energized.
     
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    Alright I overreacted because I am just disappointed. There's no need with the LOF thing. Continuing to to think anyone who says something you do not like is a LOF is as annoying as the people who thought Lin was a star. Relax
     
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    Who are we gonna start instead of Jones?

    Ariza has been just as bad these playoffs. Our whole team outside of Howard and Harden (at times) has been terrible. That's the elephant in the room.
     
  13. Code Red

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    Let's face it basketballholic started this thread because he thinks he's wiser than the majority of us.

    ^ This
    Your question was actually subjective, you asked which starter is playing with the least energy. No one really knows who is trying their best and who isn't besides the players. This should be an eye test. Why are you sharing stats? Playing with more ENERGY does not mean having a better stat than so and so. Just relax, there's no need to call everyone names who do not think like you. You are the one showing ignorance.

    "An intellectual is someone whose mind watches itself" - Albert Camus
     
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    Look at the defensive numbers I posted. Ariza has not been terrible.

    We should be starting either Smith because his defense and rebounding is mounds better than Jones. Or we should commit to small ball and start Brewer and let Harden, Ariza, and Brewer work out the matchups.

    Both Smith and Brewer are far superior defenders to Jones.
     
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    Look at the defensive numbers I posted. Ariza has not been terrible. There is one starter who had been abysmal defensively. And it's not Ariza. Not even close.

    We should be starting either Smith because his defense and rebounding is mounds better than Jones. Or we should commit to small ball and start Brewer and let Harden, Ariza, and Brewer work out the matchups.

    Both Smith and Brewer are far superior defenders to Jones.

    Jones should come off the bench with Capela when Blake and DeAndre sit. He has a much better chance of being successful by getting Big Baby or Hawes strung out. And his handle could possibly become a factor playing with the second unit. He has no chance to help us when Blake and DeAndre are in the game.

    This adjustment should have been made when DMO went down. It has been very clear for quite a long time now that Terrence can't compete against bigger more-skilled bigs and he quits in those circumstances instead of nutting up and getting his hands dirty.
     
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    I am most definitely wiser than anybody that thinks Harden is playing with less energy than Terrence is.
     
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    says the guy who believes ricky rubio will be the best pg to come out of the 2009 nba draft. how's that going btw? has his shot made that magical improvement yet lol
     
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    Tell you what. I'll post what I wrote about the point guards in the 2009 draft. Will be up for your review this evening. You can then compare it with what you thought and posted about the point guards in the 09 draft. Matter of fact I'll look up and see what you posted about them too.
     
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    ....I have chosen the Rockets to be my team in the west. I like them and I support them and I have the right to call myself a Rocket fan as much as any other person. It's not because of my compatriot Kpap and I won't go away when he is traded for sure next off season. I have as much right to voice my opinion and post here as any other person who supports the Rockets. The fact that I am here and posting and keeping faith right now when others who call themselves Rocket homers are ready to burn all the team should have been enough to tell you that I'm not a bandwagoner either.

    Anyway..as for Jones I agree with some things you say but you should be happy if you are so certain that they will trade him away this summer so you can also relax now and lower your blood pressure that you won't have to watch him again.
     
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    Next year is next year. I'm concerned about now. BP is 130/85. Just took it. No meds either. You'd probably better tell everybody that voted for Harden to take their insulin shot. They're bottoming out nurse. :(
     

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