When Stannis and his wife were overlooking Jon, she called him a b*stard something, I don't remember the exact insult. Stannis respsoned Maybe, but that wasn't Ned Starks way, hinting that he didn't believe Ned to be the type to have a kid out of wedlock. Littlefinger told the story about how taken Rhaegar was with Lyanna. Sansa mention him raping and murdering her, and Littlefinger gave her a glance that would suggest he didn't really believe that story. Lastly Barristan told Dany about how happy a person Rhaegar was, and how he hated killing. Which doesn't exactly paint him as the rapey murdery type. All 3 are subtle, and could easily be nothing. But so far the show has largely avoided backstory that doesn't really pertain to the main plot. At this point including those 2 stories serves very little purpose unless it pertains to Jon. The only alternative is that the showrunners are simply teasing book readers, which seems unlikely to me.
Anyone else disappointed with the sand snakes and the portrayal of Dorne in general? After oberyn, i thought they would give his homeland a much more colorful depiction. Also, now that Baristan is dead(?), is it safe to say that the marriage to Hizdhar is a definite go? I imagine this will force Danys hand
link, too lazy also, ser barriston dying is a huge deal, the unsullied looked pretty weak, i am no longer impressed, and yes the sand snakes are not as fine as i thought they would be, so so sad that arianna will be omitted
No need to be a jerk about it. I understood all of it. I posted it to be nice for everyone, but clearly you are undeserving.
just bustin your balls anyway, i think ive given this show a pass on a lot cause the books are so awesome, but i was thinking of the story lines and was thinking where they fit in, either ser loras or lancel will replace the roles of the kettleblacks that leads to cersei being improsoned, that is fine, but then i started thinking bronn or jaime will probably replace ser arys oakheart, then i relaized they already showed a kingsguard depart with marcella when she sailed away to dorne, when king tommen goes to free ser loras he has 5 kingsguard with him, jaime is on his way to dorne and ser maryn trant was just sent to braavos they better find a way to fill that hole
So, is Ser Barristan really dead? Wtf. Winds of Winter spoiler ahead. Spoiler Who leads Danny's army against the Yunkai in Winds of Winter?
So from what I hear TWOW is opening up with Spoiler The Battle of Mereen which is supposedly Ser Barristan's big shining moment It's probably not a stretch to say that Ser Barristan's days are numbered in the books at that point anyways. You can replace Barristan's shining moment in battle easily with Ser Jorah, and it probably has more impact given the fact that he's probably a more important sidekick to Dany than Barristan. The deviations from the books having the Spoiler Quentyn Martell character to Mereen plot cut out of the Dany story in Mereen probably means the show will probably just create one enemy in the Sons of Harpy that is dealt with this season and possibly next. I think whatever the outcome is of this part of TWOW will drop Dany off at pretty much the exact same place she would be regardless. Which hopefully means getting her a#$ over to Westeros. I think Dan and Dave are smart enough to know that a Dance with Dragons and Dany's storyline is one of, if not the most frustrating parts of the book series. I don't know if they are going to want to frustrate fans of the TV show by creating an entirely new enemy in season 6 that keeps her spinning her wheels in Mereen once again. Either she's going to fail miserably at the end of Season 5/beginning season 6, or she's going to Westeros. At least we should all hope for as much.
I hope HBO has a clear path of what they are trying to accomplish here... Most of the deviations from books I have been ok with but this one I will reserve my judgment.. I really don't know how Danny can forgive Jorah. We'll see what happens.
Given what happened in the last episode, I think it's pretty easy to see why she would be amenable. A large part of killing off Barristan was to make way for Tyrion and Jorah. Changing, or fast forwarding her plotline was a major must do for the show. Book readers waited 15 years since the original trilogy, and her ass is still in Essos. It's already become monotonous on the show, and it's one of the reason the last 2 books have been so damn disappointing. Her and the Dragons were a promising aspect that has gone nowhere. I think the showrunners know she needs Tyrion in a bad way, because her scenes have been dragging since they took Mereen, tagging her up with Tyrion would provide a huge shot in the arm for both of them. Jorah just creates a link for the 2.
Spoiler I am not going to accept that Barristan and Grey Worm are dead. They will just be 'injured' Alot of the Departures are interesting. I guess the OTHER contender is out as well. the boy Targarian. This season they skipping alot it seems Rocket River
If Barristan is dead, he went out like a chump, unlike in the books where he is a bonified Badass. Theres no reason he should've been walking around without his armor on. He's old, not r****ded.
It was like 8 on 1. He saw there was a disturbance an he did what an honorable person like him would do. It's frustrating that he went out, but he certainly didn't go out like a chump. This isn't Kill Bill where one person takes out 30.
If they didn't know where they were going then all of these storylines would be paced much slower I'm almost sure. There is a reason why they are seem like they are moving at such a fast pace now. That's why when they halt the episode the explain something like The Tourney at Harrenhaul I can't help but feel like there is a huge reason why that has significance THIS SEASON. I guess we will see but I can see why Dany's story would be at least be condensed to get her caught up with everyone else. I think before the season she and Jon Snow still had like 12 chapters left to catch up and most everyone else had like 4 or less. From a show perspective, it would kill a portion of the audience if 3/4 of the season was just Jon Snow and Dany's story. They need to make it feel like everything and everyone are happening at real time. Condensing the Sons of the Harpy conflict with pretty much all other Esos Slave Master Uprisings is probably a smart idea. As for forgiving Jorah.... I don't know that she'll have a choice. Thats what makes it so much more intriguing. Much like with Sansa and Littlefinger, its the Devil you know that you have to choose often in GOT. She can't trust Jorah as far as she can throw him, but she's going to need him.
I hope to see Varys again as well. If not . . .it will be a waste (then again i am awaiting his return to the books as well) Rocket River
The show made a point of not having him wear his armor so they could easily kill him off (potentially, 10% chance he might live). In the books, he does not go walking around a hostile city without his armor, which as a knight he's mastered the ability to use effectively in combat and is his advantage in a portion of the world unused to fighting knights.
