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There was and will always be one Tracy McGrady

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by htwnbandit, Dec 29, 2013.

  1. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    I don't care what he says i remember what he did.
    Was beating Seattle worth Barkley complaining about les Alexander not paying him money he was owed?

    Absolutely
     
  2. DREAM ON!

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    When Barkley was on the court HE PLAYED... tough and hard for the Rockets.
     
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    For every one Tmac there is a tinmac.
     
  5. dandorotik

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    T-Mac hating posts are nonsense. They're always exaggerated, so for us T-Mac fans, why even bother? There have been many Astros players who didn't lead us to the playoffs- am I supposed to hate on them? Hell no. That's for ignorant people who have an agenda. Anyone who's read Tinman's posts know 2 things about him:

    1. He worships the championship teams (understandable).

    2. He thinks McGrady was terrible for the Rockets (non-sensical).

    He exaggerates- it's part of his schtick- I mean, come on, if he were fair, what Maxwell did in 1995 was way worse than anything McGrady's done- helping us to win a championship doesn't excuse him from abandoning the team- or being so bad that Rudy T, of all people, has to kick you off the team. It was extremely selfish of him and one of the worst things any Rockets player has ever done.

    So, what normal people do is they forgive and forget. Maxwell helped us win a championship, but he jumped ship at one of the worst possible times. McGrady helped us win some playoff games, and he quit on us, but not as bad as Maxwell did.

    So, rational normal people with perspective cheer McGrady when they see him at a game (like we all did in my section for Game 5), and they cheer Olajuwon louder (which we all did). We certainly didn't boo McGrady- that just reeks of immaturity- that's like holding a grudge against a girl who broke up with you in high school- come on, get over it already.

    But it doesn't matter one iota- Tinman lives to provide his schtick no matter what anyone else says, so let him continue to be the court jester in this matter and we'll get a chuckle out of his monomaniacal obsessions.
     
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    Except tinman's right.
     
  7. tinman

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    Maxwell quit because he lost his job to Drexler and felt disrespect.

    Tell me why McGrady quit? Did he lose his starting job like Maxwell? Was it money? Max was pissed he didn't get an extension.
    McGrady was the leagues highest paid player.

    Forgive and forget? Maxwell told CLUTCH that he made a bad decision.

    McGrady never admitted he quit the rockets.

    So there's your difference betweenn the two.

    Oh, the reason why toyota center cheered maxwell so hard?

    He's real
     
  8. dandorotik

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    Forgive and forget. It's just silly to carry on this grudge you have, but it doesn't matter- most of us with perspective understand. If it makes you feel better to fuel your obsession continually, power to you
     
  9. dandorotik

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    On#1, yes. On#2, no. Without McGrady, we're not even in the playoffs. And the 22-game win streak was the best non-playoff highlight in rockets history. It has to count for something. In my humble opinion.
     
  10. tinman

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    You didn't answer the question.
    Vernon maxwell clearly told Clutch, the creator of this site, that he made a mistake and told us why.

    Has McGrady told us why he quit ? Or why he lied about his health?

    Also. Absolutely winning a championship exonerates some of what maxwell did.

    McGrady never won a damn playoff series and was paid to be the leader of the team.

    Hakeem olajuwon was the leader of the rockets not maxwell.

    Eric b and rakim had a song called follow the leader.
     
  11. tinman

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    Did mcgrady play in 22 games?
    I recall that the winning streak highlight was that a new player like Landry or brooks stepped up each game.

    This wasn't like hakeem dropping 40 vs the spurs every night.

    22 game was rick adelman. Mcgrady was never part of a streak before or after rick.
     
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    He got a huge ovation at Game 1 against the Mavs after they showed the dunk on Shawn Bradley on the jumbotron and cut to T-Mac sitting courtside.

    You know what? Rockets fans love T-Mac. We appreciate his years with the team. But we can also be honest about what he accomplished which isn't much. Those Rockets squads did consistently win 50+ games(aside from the injury-riddled 2005-06 season). They got home court advantage twice in 2007 and 2008. They won 22 straight games in 2008. And individually there was the 13 points in 35 seconds just a handful of games into his Rockets career.

    But ultimately it's about winning playoff series and contending for titles. T-Mac's Rockets never did that. I do cut him a little slack for 2008. If Yao hadn't gone down 2/3 of the way through the season with the stress fracture in his foot, I have no doubt they beat the Jazz given how much deeper we were that year compared to 2007. And obviously there's no telling what happens in 2009 had T-Mac been healthy(not to mention Deke and Yao).
     
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    Guys, guys, guys. Vernon Maxwell deserves our respect, despite being a multiple domestic violence offender and quitter, just because he helped us win a title. Makes sense!
     
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    People don't watch sports for morals or ethics. We watch it for entertainment and to watch people great at the sport play. People who want role models and/or morals and ethics should go to church or something. It's cool that T-Mac is a humanitarian, but when I am watching basketball, I don't give a rat's ass about any of that.
     
  15. CHI

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    I'm not sure if it was work ethic or whatever, but I always had the feeling the TMac could have been wayy better than he was. He was never Kobe level, or even Durant level with us. He was a guy who relied on his athleticism but didn't seem to ever have the heart the true greats had.
     
  16. chenjy9

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    It wasn't a secret that T-Mac had questionable work ethic and never wanted the responsibilities that came with being a franchise player, just the glamour and money. When things were going good, it was all about him. If things were going bad, it was anyone but him. He had the talent to be one of the best in NBA history, but lacked the drive. That said, he had so much talent that even cruising, he was still one of the top players during his prime.
     
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    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcgratr01/gamelog/2008/

    T-Mac played all those 22 games for the 22 games winning streak

    Yao Ming is the one didn't play all of those 22 games because of injuries
     
  18. tmac2k8

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    I can't believe anyone here would think he actually didn't play his heart out or quit on the team during the playoffs. He did quit in 2009 but that was result of being injured and trying to play through injury which led him to get frustrated and made a bad choice by announcing micro-fracture surgery without notifying the team.

    In the playoffs though, he gave it his all. Yes, he cried at the podium like a baby but that's indication of how much he wanted to win and how tough it was that he couldn't do it time and time again. He ran up against tough teams and just didn't have enough to carry the team.

    In Orlando it may have been a different story. He was younger, got cocky and let the series slip through his hands. I can see the criticism from Orlando but I don't have issue with him once he became a Rocket.
     
  19. DudeWah

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    True Rockets fans love all Rockets legends including, but not limited to: Hakeem, Clyde, Calvin, Tracy, and Yao.
     
  20. chenjy9

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    Difference in perspective; I don't consider T-Mac a legend.
     

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