So we are gonna ignore the riot thats happening in Baltimore

You know... He wasn't much of a fan of anarchy either.

 

"I ask for, not at once no government, but at once a better government"

 

LOL, did you miss the part about this not being West Germany? You Canucks will never understand our culture, or why we are so different from the Euros. You simply don't face the same issues that we do down here.

You can pray for reparations if you want - er, sorry, I'm sure you're an atheist or something, so I doubt prayer will be forthcoming. Wasn't trying to force my religion on you, no need to call the thought police in the ACLU just yet... But really, you're free to believe whatever craziness you want. My advice though... Just don't hold your breath.

Question: do you think the violence such as we've seen in Baltimore and Ferguson increases or decreases the probability that attitudes on reparations will swing in your favor?

Not. Happening.

 

I actually worked subprime for Wells during the boom years, in Maryland too, lol. There was no singling out for Blacks in the eLeads system, lol. It was all credit scores, debt, job history, and income, oh, and trying to sell, sell, sell. It wasn't sell to blacks or whites...it was just sell. And everyone was making money. Then the bubble burst.

 

That's all fine and dandy. But while you and old Henry are trying to figure out which laws you feel like abiding by and which ones you are going to ignore, take my advice on this: the laws covering destruction of property, theft, and assault are not some of the ones you should ignore. It won't end well if you do.

 

Sorry, but your personal experience on this does not jibe with The Narrative, and must be rejected and ignored. Prepare to be called a racist for this.

 

History tells us that the Irgun bombed Haifa, killed British officials, and coralled up Palestinian civilians for massacre and got for it the founding of Israel, reparations from Germany, and a legacy of "never again".

Begin went from being the leader of the Irgun to the leader of Likud.

I don't like it, but the truth is history as guide shows us that greater evils have been overcome with lesser evils. Maybe the future will be brighter--but the whole point of this thread should be the following: this isn't just about one terrible night. It's about all of the terrible nights past,present,and future that will come if America chooses to never make itself whole and admit the sins of the past and present to stop the sins of the future.

I don't have to pray for anything.

"Hope is definitely not the same thing as optimism. It is not the conviction that something will turn out well, but the certainty that something makes sense, regardless of how it turns out." - Vaclav Havel

 

Yea only for the legal process to fail them yet again. Case in point Rekia Boyd, so why should anyone take what you say that you want seriously.

If the rioting is not about Mr. Grey, why wasn't all this happening before?

 

Are you willing to make a sworn affidavit to that effect?

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/8/28/former_wells_fargo_subprime_loan_officer

 

Not happening bro.

 

When have I ever side stepped a question? And no, I don't condone that -- but, I do condone the property destruction, looting and fighting with police. I don't think it is a first option, but, when nothing else works (and nothing else seems to be working), then I see no reason not to resort to any means necessary.

Quote one comment I have made in this thread that is racist. Give me one quote. No sidestepping now. And if you can't you will need to stop idiotically and baselessly calling me racist.

As far as which of those is a personal threat -- I didn't take it as a threat honestly, but as you expressing a desire for me to die -- which is a lot more weak and pathetic than a threat. But, both of those comments (gene pool cleansing and a desire to create a Freikorps like anti protestor death squad that would target people like me) illustrate a direct desire to see me dead.

 

I'd rather ignore the laws on the sharing economy: in America, if you're going to be a criminal, you'd better be a successful one.

*shoutout to fellow peeps Uber and AirBnB

 

My gut is telling me unless someone gets shot (like a kid), there may be a flare up on Saturday but the worst is over.

 

I want to know exactly how you think the City of Baltimore and the Baltimore PD was doing this wrong. Six officers have been suspended and an investigation is ongoing. What, exactly, do you expect them to do at this point?

You presuppose not only the officers' guilt, but a miscarriage of justice on the part of the police department and city. Yo've guessed the verdict before it even comes in. If that is the case - and it most certainly is - then you can NOT with a straight face say that you are interested in justice and expect anyone to believe you. Justice would involve waiting for the legal process to play out. Your side in this debate - and I am guessing that you support the rioters by your comments - didn't wait for justice, they pre-empted it with mob justice.

And that is NOT justice.

Because Malik Shabazz hadn't shown up yet.

What does looting liquor stores and pharmacies have to do with justice for Mr. Grey? Explain how the former leads to the latter.

Also, do you think that those white people who went to a baseball game and were beaten and assaulted by a black mob deserve justice for their injuries? What should justice for them look like? Should they wait for the legal process to play out, or should they visit black neighborhoods and physically assault any blacks they can find there? Is that justice?

That's YOUR justice. And it's NOT justice. It's anarchy.

 

Can't have it both ways dude. You're cool with the looters killing cops, eh? Brick hits a cop in the face and kills him, orphans his kid or something, you're down with that because...He's The Man"?

You're totally cool with burning down that CVS, putting all of its employees out of work, because... They're "The Man"?

I called you garbage before. I will do it again. Your attempts to justify this behavior are DISGUSTING.

It's implicit in your support for black rioters fighting "The Man". You do of course mean "The White Man", don't you? You tried to duck on beating white people, but you still support the rioters, even though that's exactly what they did. It's impossible not to think that there's not a scintilla of racial animosity involved in your support for their violence.

This is a RACIST mob, and you are wholeheartedly supporting their actions. Why would anyone NOT think you're a racist?

And anyway, as long as you are going to call me a Nazi I am certainly within my rights to call you a racist.

But you presented that as evidence that I threatened you. Walking it back now, eh? Weak.

And where did you get death squads from? Good grief...

 

No, I feel like an *******.

Sorry, dude that was very uncalled for. I've prayed for you and hate the situation you've found yourself in with your parents. It was extremely rude of me. I've never had any issues with you so I'm not sure why you feel that way. Again, my extreme apologies.

 

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What they did wrong was that this shouldnt have happened in the first place.

Thats the root of the protest and riots that are happening. AA are tired of being the victims of police brutality resulting in unnecessary death. They are also tired of waiting of a Justice System that has been systematically proven to be favored against them.

You've seen the new, Rent A Cop "accidentally" shoots and kills man, The Police officer that shot man in the back, Rekia Boyd murderer being dropped of all chargers.

I never said i supported the riots, especially since they are destroying their own neighbor hoods that people will have to live in, but when you continually have cases like these with no real change, people will begin to get upset.

 

My view on what...?

But they should be doing something. Those gangs have been F'n up Baltimore for years.

I stopped reading right there... The "supposed racism" has consumed you to the point that it conjured at your fingertips as you annihilate your keyboard with every stroke of your burning fingers. And I've noticed that you're really active in threads like this (in the D&D). You attack them with more passion and vigor than ATW does threads on Islam/Muslims... But at least it's some of them cutting people's heads off and showing up with machine guns. Are you not tiered... Because you're running laps around this freakin thread faster than ---> Bruce Jenner. And a majority of your post are full of hate and violence.

I get your point.

 

Of course it shouldn't. But it did, and how people respond to it matters. A lot.

No, that's why the protests are happening. The riots are happening because people want to steal shiite and burn shiite and break shiite and beat up some white folks. The protesters might want justice, but thew rioters want something else.

When you have cases like these you deal with them in the legal system on a case-by-case basis, because each case is different, and you do NOT have all of the evidence necessary to make a judgment. The Brown case in Ferguson makes this point perfectly - the vast majority of evidence supported the cop's contention and indicated that Brown assaulted a cop and tried to take his weapon away, and not only did he not try to surrender, but appeared to be charging when fatally shot. But the actual facts of the case never mattered, and the rioters there burned the city over a lie.

Wait until the facts come in. Allow the legal process to proceed. We have rule of law in this country for a reason - whether you like it or not, that's how it works.

Keep up this rioting BS and a crackdown will inevitably ensue. The country has little patience for anarchy. And the rioters do their cause - I mean, the cause against police brutality, not the cause of stealing pringles and liquor, or beating white people attending baseball games, that is - a tremendous disservice when they behave like this. Like I said, not everyone will just remember the riots and the damage and injury they have caused. You destroy your own case when you behave like this.

This is EXTREMELY foolish behavior. And if the black community doesn't reign its children in (this is mostly children and young adults) it will only set itself back because of it.