So we are gonna ignore the riot thats happening in Baltimore

Wow. More than a lifetime. LOL

 

FWIW, I can name several. Not sure what that proves or disproves though.

 

Do you know why I did well in school? A large part of my success(relative terms here) was derived from educated parents driving me to succeed.. the whole 'tiger mom' concept. Sure there are outliers within children of all races who don't require strong parenting to succeed in education. But for the rest of us, a stable environment with dedicated parents who understand the importance of education and have an education themselves is a necessity.

So, when I state poverty in more cases than not is inherent, this is exactly what I'm referring to. When more than several generations (400 years worth) have been suppressed in educational opportunities either through slavery or disproportionate funding of black segregated schools during the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws an entire culture of uneducated poverty stricken people form.

 

Just wondering if it took you more than a lifetime to do something with yourself

 

I don't think you understand the concept of 'inheriting poverty and a lack of education'.

 

They set the traps... And black folks keep falling into them. The CIA is a known drug transporting gang but you ignore them and just attack the poor folks who the drugs are dumped on. But that's what people who can't think in a wider spectrum (or just hateful) do.

And like I said. Black folks don't own the entertainment industry.

On your view on how other countries who view the United States as the "Big Satan"... Yes your view is simple because they will look for any and every reason to point their finger back at America. As far as my view on segregation... You should talk to some older black folks in this country who went though it as well instead of taking sale outs word for it like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson.

 

LMAO! You know I live in the RGV and I teach in a title one school, and my parents were not college educated, but still did what they had to do to make sure I had a roof over my head, got my free education, and taught me to be a pretty good guy. I deal with kids that live in poverty...whose parents lack education...who don't even speak English.

I think I have an idea of people inheriting poverty and a lack of education.

Once again, you assume too much.

 

You know just because rioting can be traced to be caused by sociological issues of marginalization and poverty does not mean it is justified and should be accepted.

What is happening now is excessive. Just because violence and unrest are part of the negative by-product that is brought on by previous suppression of the black race and various other social issues does NOT make a sign for positive change and progress.

These young teens do not know any better, their actions are largely due to a lack of education and guidance on what is right or wrong, and they are easily coerced by the media to believe anything the media wants them to believe. They are driven by a variety of negative culture and media influences, and that combined with a lack of common sense and education causes them to do irrational and violent acts to innocent people and their properties.

There are plenty, I mean plenty of black people that are having their voice heard through non violent means, that is a sign of social progress and change. Kids who are barely 18 wearing masks and lighting everything they see on fire because their homies are also doing is NOT.

 

I don't think anyone is saying that. obviously the rioters deserve to be detained and prosecuted.

 

So you do agree that 400 years of suppressed education targeting one race does have ramifications?

Lucky you. You are one of those outliers.

 

Its vicious cycle that probably won't end anytime soon. There are two parties in involved and it seems like you put the sole blame on one party(correct me if I'm wrong on that but thats how I'm interpreting it). That's my problem with all these "riots" and everything that has happened recently with these cop shootings. It's not just the cops, the white people, the CIA, the government or whoever the **** you want to say are at fault. If there isn't an attempt on both sides to change for the better than whats the point.

 

Read through the thread, you'd be surprised

Rioters are being compared to the boston tea party, MLK and Ghandi "needed" violence like this to send their message, Riots and property destruction is a sign of social progress and should not be dismissed etc etc.

 

If I'm not mistaken, that's not the first time Teen Wolf wished harm on someone or their family.

 

It's basically just one or two posters: Ham Jam in particular.

 

people get way too personal over a debate in a forum, it's not fun

 

But if you ignore the causes of the behavior then you should not expect the behavior to change.

Also, dismissing all of the riots and looting as done by uneducated kids is incorrect. I am not the only educated adult who thinks rioting and looting are the right course of actions. It is not the first recourse by any means, but the dogma of non-violence for anyone but the police and the government is a recipe for the type of tyrannical loss of economic and civil well being in our society that the owner of the Orioles I quoted talked about.

 

An eye-opening thread indeed.

Rioting should not be tolerated and should be dealt with swiftly and harshly. Same applies to police who are found breaking the law. No protection, no mercy.

 

The only way to convince change amongst the general public is to change public perception. Public perception is not going to improve based of these riots. They are only going to worsen.

 

I disagree. Take Ferguson for instance. Do you think the DOJ report would have ever even been created if there wasn't near insurrection on the streets of that city?

I have been part of a lot of non-violent protests, and people and police laugh at us. Let them stand out there, who cares, they say. And they're right. Non violent protestors are so often ignored and derided as wasting their time.

Rioting and looting seems to be the only thing that actually gets any attention.