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2015 Texans Draft

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  1. Scolalist

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    This was who I wanted in the first rd. If he was there in Rd. 3. Can't put enough value on a big, physical WR who can also run excellent routes/has excellent hands
     
  2. zeeshan2

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Hearing <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Nebraska?src=hash">#Nebraska</a> OLB Randy Gregory is in Houston today for his pre-draft visit with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a>.</p>&mdash; PDS (@PatDStat) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatDStat/status/590219546188861440">April 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  3. Ottomaton

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    Gregory is the player that everybody thought Clowney was. Slower 40, but much quicker shuttle and three cone. Also, much more intense on the field. He has the desire I don't get from Clowney.

    If he can put down the bong, watch out.

    Brett Kollmann on Randy Gregory:

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/S8AdCCOD4iw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Gregory + Clowney is potentially the longest, most athletic pair of OLB's in the league. Potentially being the key word as both would have to get their **** together, but in the best case, it could be "all time great" amazing.
     
  4. ROXRAN

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    I want Randy Gregory... has fluid hips like clay matthews showed plus that burst. If he is there...o man...we gotta get him
     
  5. the shark

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    Gregory is a beast, but does anyone think Bob would ok them pulling the trigger on this guy if he's on the board at 16? Plus who's to say i would blame him as this dude obviously has a big time problem with weed. You can't stay clean for the combine knowing how much was on the line? Big time problem or freakin dumb @$$.
     
  6. Remix

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    The Temptation would be strong then you think about Josh Gordon. All the talent in the world, could be the best at his position in the league...if he would only drop the bong.

    Gregory was caught twice for weed at Nebraska and a 3rd time would have resulted in him being kicked out of school which many are saying is the reason why he came out early. Then he fails the "idiot" test by testing positive in the combine. I mean how dumb can you be. Millions at stake, you know exactly when you're being tested, and you still fail??

    He can't do much for the Texans if he's going to be constantly suspended
     
  7. AFS

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    It would also be awful to have two years in a row where our first rounder wasn't contributing to the team. You generally want those first rounders to come in and make an impact. Not sure we'll be willing to gamble on a boom-or-bust pick.
     
  8. Sydeffect

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    According to Football Insiders new metrics,

    It has Brett Hundley having a 30% chance to be an upper tier QB and a 30% chance to bust
     
  9. Ottomaton

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    Justin Houston failed a drug test at the combine as well as one at UGA, but has been problem free in the NFL, with 48.5 sacks in 4 years. The failed combine test dropped him to the 3rd round. Texans took Brooks Reed and all-time great Brandon Harris in the 2nd round, leaving incorrigible drug addict and train-wreck-in-waiting Houston on the board for KC to take in the 3rd.

    Would you trade Brooks Reed (asssuming they hadn't let him walk in FA) and Brandon Harris (assuming they hadn't already cut him) for Justin Houston today? Or does that failed drug test 4 years ago still indicate that he'll never be able to stay off the weed, despite testing clean since then?

    IMO, the two players that are game-changers that might be there at 16 are Gregory and Todd Gurley. If either were totally free of issues, they wouldn't make it to 16. You have to decide whether you can manage risk on the great player, or whether you prefer to wuss out and take the safer, good (not great) player.

    If I drafted Gregory, I'd drop $40,000 - $50,000 to put a psychiatrist on staff to follow Gregory every day at practice and give him his phone number to effectively be "on call" to more or less be his "sponsor" like you get at AA to give him every opportunity to stay off the weed, at least during the season if he is willing to do so. If Gregory just comes out and says, "Screw it, I'm smoking no matter what." That would be something else entirely. But if he expresses willingness, you can work with him.
     
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  10. Dubious

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    In the same vein you have DGB. Here's a looong story on him:

    THE RESURRECTION OF DORIAL GREEN-BECKHAM
    http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/DG...m=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national2

    There is so much more to it than the short blurbs we get in draft profiles. In DGB's case it could be like Dez, if the team commits to him and gives him the family he's looking for he could be model citizen. Or not, but drafting at 16, if I have done my work on psychological profiling I could draft Gregory or DGB. When you bring them in for the post draft introductions you tell everyone you believe in this young man and will give him all the support to help them develop as a person and a football player and then you do it.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    With Gregory failing 2 drug tests in college and then one at the combine it would be a hard sell....that said, the upside is there.
     
  12. Hey Now!

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    People need to remember, the Texans drafted Okoye, Cushing and Hopkins - they all had pre-draft issues. (and I know for a fact, they really wanted Mathieu.)

    They definitely have a character clause, but it's not as persuasive as some seem to think and it's certainly not "boy scout or the highway." They don't want bad dudes; bad dudes are the first to corrupt a locker room when things go bad. That's the extent of the character clause. I mean, BO'B coached in college two years ago - do you really think he's silly enough to get worked up about weed?
     
  13. Dubious

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    Walterfootball and others keep giving the Texans Gurley at #16. He could well be the BPA but this is a great draft for RB's. Braddock rates some of the 3rd and 4th round projections in his top 5. Seems like waiting on a RB till later nets you a better value since Arian will be the workhorse for at least 1 more year.
    Plus you still have Blue.

    2015 NFL DRAFT TOP 15 RUNNING BACKS

    http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/2015-nfl-draft-top-15-running-backs/
    Jayson Braddock 11:07 am, April 20th, 2015
     
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  14. Dubious

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    Just smoking pot on occasion wouldn't hurt unless he got suspended. For these 'red flag' players you need to have your psychologist determine whether they are kids that can accept the requirements of the NFL or sociopaths.

    I believe I would take either Gregory or DGB at 16 unless my headshrinker said no. The need and the opportunity/risk looks too favorable to pass on.
     
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  15. The Hunted

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    Clowney, Sam Montgomery.... I know those names don't exactly put the Texans FA in the best light, but I do agree the boy scout reputaion is overblown.
     
  16. Nimo

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    Don't forget Cierre Woods and Willie Jefferson were released for allegedly smoking weed even though they were contributing to the team. Woods was going to be the starting RB. They still take that stuff seriously.
     
  17. Dubious

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    A lot of opinions on pot have scaled back in just the past two years. Hip Hop peer group players are going to be around pot. Their families smoke, their friends smoke, the music all glorifies smoking. But it shouldn't be too hard for a person that has the motivation levels to play NFL football, knowing he is definitely going to get tested, that can earn millions or work at Thrifty rent-a-car, to adapt, "nah man. I can't" ...done.
     
  18. Cannonball

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    He was undrafted, but Bryan Braman was arrested and suspended from WTAMU for growing hallucinogenic mushrooms. Texans still signed him.
     
  19. Ottomaton

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    If Willie Jefferson and Cierre Woods break the rules and smoke weed, you cut them and don't think twice.

    If Lawrence Taylor smokes crack and sleeps with under age girls, and AP beats his kid, the offenses are clearly more heinous, but there's a pretty good chance you try 5o make it work.

    There is depth at RB. There's even some depth in the 2nd at OLB. But none of that depth is game changing transcendent, like the two at the top. Duke Johnson could be pretty good. He isn't the 2nd coming of Beast Mode.
     
  20. Remii

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    Better value... This isn't grocery shopping.
     

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