He credits Curry for making a good team great when it's been: -Green playing at a higher (e.g. contract time) level -Thompson making the leap this year -Kerr being a better coach than Jackson As far as who is "better" and more "dangerous" I'm sorry but this isn't the NBA's version of Offensive Player of the Year or Best Player in the NBA. It's MOST VALUABLE. I know that's lost among voters the past couple of decades but the description is within the name of the award itself--who's been more valuable to his team's success? Zach Lowe, with his youtube videos and usage of GIFs, should be able to see that if you took Harden out of the equation this team is lottery bound since January. You take Curry out, GS is still 7th or 8th seed.
First off, Curry has nothing to do with Bogut and and Draymond's defense. Second, you are trying to say that two allstars in Thompson and Iguadola are playing well because Curry "makes them better?" :roll eyes: Ok.
@Camarograna2 You're right about that, that's just lazy and bad journalism, which deserves to be criticized. And there really are way to many idiots out there who just blow smoke out of their ass and call it journalism. But there's also still quite a fews good reporters, or mediocre ones that write a good piece from time to time. And I think it's really important to differentiate between the two. I'm curious how people on the board will react, if Curry actually wins. I hope we won't be sore losers and complain about all the unfairness. Because both definitely deserve to be MVP.
Agreed. That performance Friday night pretty much was the nail in the coffin. It wasn't even losing the game that was the issue(although that didn't help). But putting up 2 straight mediocre efforts against the Spurs including a really bad one at home sealed the deal for Curry. If Harden wants to stick it to everyone who votes for Curry, lead the Rockets deep into the playoffs and take it to the Warriors like Dream did to Robinson 20 years ago.
I don't think anyone here will be shocked if Curry actually wins the MVP. That just seems highly likely at his point, TBH. It's just that some people (including me) have issue with the reasons given as to why Curry should be the MVP of this season. So the debate never ends....
What you're saying is pretty subjective. I haven't watched the Warriors very much this season, so I don't actually know if them becoming way better had nothing to do with Curry, but I doubt it. Being a great off-the-ball player makes your teammates better without needing the ball, I would argue that that's a very "valuable" skill and therefore absolutely matters for the MVP award. I agree about the argument about switching out both players and Harden probably doing better. But that's just one of so many arguments you can make for both players, but it's not concluding. It just reinforces my opinion, that you can make a great case for both players. If you only focus on Harden, it seems ludicrous for him not to win the award. But I'm sure, that the same goes for Curry and GSW fans.
This is what I've wanted for him. I don't think Harden can handle being a front runner and him having success early messes with his mojo. Look at last season's playoffs. He thrives after getting knocked down. I think this will only motivate him.
Is Kyle Korver better off-the-ball player than Steph Curry? If you look at his three point percentages, one could easily come to that conclusion. Or is he benefiting from the system that emphasizes fluid ball movement that the coach Mike Budenholzer mastered while his years in San Antonio? Maybe, it's both? Who knows, but never make an one-direction argument when the relationship might very well be cyclical.
Actually . . BOGUT makes a good team great No Bogut . .. and they look pedestrian If Bogut goes down RIGHT NOW! Does anyone project them to get out of the 2nd round? Much less having had a 'historic' season if he missed 25+ games Rocket River
Precisely. I don't think you can name 3 times where Harden has been able to take a back seat for a night. It's a shame injuries have cost Harden and the Rockets so much. They're comfortably the 2 seed if Howard/Jones/etc. don't miss so much time. But then again team success mattering so much for an individual award is silly in its own right.
Curry's numbers from last year vs this year aren't all that different. His efficiency numbers look sexy but that's what happens when your teammates improved on their games/stats and you only have to play 32 minutes a night. Green's shooting better this year, rebounding more, and assisting on more shots. Thompson's season is consistent with what he's done since entering the league as his numbers have gone up every year since he's the starting shooting guard. Even Harrison Barnes' statline has improved. These guys are entering their 3rd or 4th year in the league which is pretty much when a player either takes their game to the next level or don't. I don't think I said anything about this facet of the game mattering or not mattering but I'll entertain the argument and say, yes, I do agree that it matters. Be that as it may, if your entire offensive system relies on you scoring a lot and doing it while high efficiency while your teammates skillset falls into either 1. shooting a 3 or 2. catching a lob pass at the rim I think what Harden has done for his team to be a bit more special.
Seeing how it's decided by sportswriters and broadcasters in USA and Canada, it seems evident that Harden won't receive the recognition, even though he is in my eyes the most valuable player of any team in the league this season. Where would we be without him? Where would GS be without Curry? I think we'd take a much bigger dip than they would. Can you imagine the game Harden would have leading the GS team? or hell, even our team with everyone having been as healthy as GS? It's ridiculous holding the Spurs games as evidence against him... but people do... even though he got robbed of a game winning shot/play. It's a shame, Harden deserves it in my eyes though it's not like Curry isn't worthy, but maybe it will light a fire under the Beard to show everyone they were wrong, like Robinson holding Hakeem's trophy before..."the game." He needs to have more fire in the post season this year if we're going to make any waves.
Multiple Sauces (Broussard) just said on ESPN (his and hers) that he is 98% sure that he's voting for Harden. That probably is a bad omen
2014 Rockets Playoff Roster Spoiler James Harden Dwight Howard Terrence Jones Patrick Beverley Donatas Motiejunas Omer Asik Isaiah Canaan Omri Caspi Robert Covington Troy Daniels Francisco Garcia Jordan Hamilton Jeremy Lin Chandler Parsons Josh Powell VS 2015 Rockets Playoff Roster Spoiler Dwight Howard James Harden Patrick Beverley Donatas Motiejunas Terrence Jones Jason Terry Josh Smith Trevor Ariza Corey Brewer Kostas Papanikolaou Joey Dorsey Pablo Prigioni Nick Johnson Clint Capela KJ McDaniels To essentially change the entire Roster and win 55(possible 56 games) and miss key pieces throughout the season...Are people even looking at this? The Rockets played so well this season, and were just faced with the champs at the wrong time...or the Rockets still wouldve been sitting at #2. Take all of this as a blessing in disguise. Analysts everywhere are predicting Curry as the MVP, and Westbrook at the scoring champ. They also predict that the Rockets will lose their first round matchup regardless of whom they play. The Rockets have a lot of doubters to prove wrong. Will it be this year that Clutch City rises from the dust? Hoping so...and hoping for a very motivated James Harden and Dwight Howard. Let the real season begin!!! P.S. Spoiler GSW 2013-2014 Roster Stephen Curry Klay Thompson Harrison Barnes Andrew Bogut Draymond Green David Lee Festus Ezeli Andre Iguodala Marresse Speights Ognjen Kuzmic Hilton Armstrong Steve Blake Jordan Crawford Nemanja Nedovic Jermaine O'Neal vs 2014-2015 Roster Stephen Curry Klay Thompson Harrison Barnes Andrew Bogut Draymond Green David Lee Festus Ezeli Andre Iguodala Marresse Speights Ognjen Kuzmic Brandon Rush James McAdoo Justin Holiday Leandro Barbosa Shawn Livingston
Did I ever talk about their defenses? No Is it so hard to believe that teammates will benefit from an elite PG playing as Point and dictating the offense? Better passes = Better shots usually.
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