Do the Children of Southern Racists Inherit the Disorder?

Separate from my response to your original post, a longer and farther reaching Reconstruction would have certainly helped, especially if Lincoln and Johnson had endorsed one before the War ended. It would have helped if Grant had been a better President overall and paved the way for other Generals to run, they were the only ones who recognized and engaged the paramilitary threat that arose after the War.

 

Because they have bigoted cops as neighbors?

 

Unfortunately I do think that it is passed from generation to generation.

I can only speak to what I know but yes, judging from my sister, her kids and her kids kids growing up in very rural Lufkin Texas, I can say without out a doubt it is passed to the young. I truly feel sorry for my nieces and nephews who will grow up in that environment. They really have no chance at all.

It breaks my heart

 

I'd say it's more complicated than parents passing the meme to children. It's more of the children absorbing the mindset from the culture they swim in. Much of that is dictated by the parents, but there are many influences on kids besides them -- friends (and friends' parents), schools, television, etc. The institutional ones like TV and school have been sanitized, but it's a sort of war of attrition regarding the influences of family and friends. As you knock down racist attitudes of some people in the cohort, the influence of racism on others will likewise go down. So, sure parents have an impact, but its not as simple as racists begetting racists.

As for Reconstruction, hell no it wouldn't have made a difference, except maybe to make things worse. The South felt a lot of resentment over being occupied and humiliated. Reconstruction was not exactly winning the hearts and minds of the Southern Whites.

You stole my point. Glynch talks like the Midwest (or for that matter, the northeast and every other part of the union) doesn't have the problem that the South has. Ferguson isn't in a southern state, for example.

 

In the late '90s, I worked for a small computer consulting company whose owner regularly went off about n***** this and n****** that. Sadly, there are some people who will just brush and/or laugh this type of behavior off as an outlier when there are broad swaths of the country where this type of talk/thinking is common.

Sadly, he raised his daughter to talk and think just like him. Too bad, she was a very attractive girl until any topic was brought up which could be twisted to disparage people based on race.

 

i kinda see your point but i think your wrong. my home town is filled with racist people esp those older than 40. a lot of my friends and me were racist because of our parents and grandparents., you know like at dinner table, church, bbqs, watching tv, gatherings etc.

when i moved to houston i was really scared b.c i never seen so many asians, blacks and browns before. but now that im in school again, i became friends with some of them, even a couple of hindoos and moslems. i also got internet at my home and on my phone and at school so im always looking siht up online to fact check on wikipedia and learn etc. when i visit my home town, i feel like a lot of the people are backward and ignorant like about big bang, evolution, climate change. most of my friends who got jobs in dallas and austin also feel the same way b.c when you work and talk with colored people you see they aren't that different from us. even the most racist kids i know, whose granddad lynched some black folks, aren't as bad.

bottom line is most of us were raised to be racist like our old folks. but it becomes diluted with the internet and meeting other types of people. i think in about 2 or 3 generations it should be a lot less. racism will exist in other parts of the world because they don't mix with each other like we do here in america.

 

Sadly, bigoted, racist, religiously/ideologically messed up and closed-minded views get passed on to later generations. We see this everywhere in the world, but nowhere more than in the Middle East.

 

Do you have a time frame on that?
50 years? 100? 400?

Sincerely,


Rocket River
LOL. Don't look at me like that, Steven!!!

 

As someone that has lived years in the Midwest, after living years in Texas; I can tell you that the racism in the Midwest is worse than in Texas.

You are dangerous.... your naivete is staggering.

 

I agree which is what I already said.

The US is more racist than conservatives like to pretend it is and it is less racist than liberals and race activists like to pretend it is.

It gets better with each generation and yet it lingers (less and less so) in each generation as it is passed by the parents.

To Rocket River's question about timeframe where he gave numbers, that's silly. If you were to go grab a black person from 1875 and drop them into modern day Houston, TX, they would think they died and went to heaven in terms of race relations. Have some perspective. Things are ABSOLUTELY getting better in race relations. Heck, the president himself is black, the last president had a black secretary of state, the current president has a black National Security Advisor, will have two black attorney generals, we have a black Supreme Court Justice, many black congressmen and women, etc. Progress always looks slower when viewed the lens of your own lifetime.

 

Racism is a learned trait, so views can be passed down to the children. However, racism can be countered by positive real world interactions with those in which the racism was aimed.

 

I know plenty of people with racist parents who aren't racist themselves. Racism is disappearing faster than some of you think.

 

I wonder what would have happened if the U.S. decided to let the South keep their independence.

The dynamics of illegal immigration would be hilarious. Since the North had the large majority hold on infrastructure, educated individuals and manufacturing, the South would eventually turn into a relatively weak nation-state with a much lower standard of living. Thus, the hypothetical 'illegal alien' would have been a racist caucasian southerner trying to cross into the U.S. for better opportunities in this hypothetical scenario. The irony...

 

I have no doubt it is disappearing. I also have no doubt that the "some of you" to whom you refer are concerned that the process isn't moving faster as opposed to seeing the process as slower than it actually is.

 

That's a terrible example; culturally Missouri is a lot more similar to Mississippi than Minnesota.

Unsurprisingly, its history of institutionalized racism dates back to the civil war and its aftermath.

 

In this thought experiment, the North would be very white, and the big black migration of the early 20th century would have been blocked at the border. Meanwhile the South would be even more intensely black and would eventually have an emancipation anyway. Its politics could even come to be dominated by blacks.

 

From what I know about the future from watching star trek, and how black Geordi LaForge is, racism is replaced with species bigotry. Androids, aliens from other planets, other forms of life.

 

Missouri is quintessentially Midwest. It's Minnesota that's the outlier.

 

Easy Enough to accept that slow rate. . . . when the effects of it are not upon you as much as others.

Second Class citizenship maybe better here than 1st class somewhere else. . . .but at the end of the day it is still second class.

Sorry If I am impatient for suffering to end . . .

Rocket River

 

why did you add the word 'southern' to the title? You realize that's a racist statement against southerners?