Iran: No deal reached, only framework; Iran can still enrich

ATW they have had since 1979 to build a bomb. The Islamic Republic dismantled the Shah's clandestine nuclear weapons program. They issued a religious order against nuclear weapons. They didn't pursue nuclear weapons during the Iran-Iraq war. They didn't use chem or bio weapons during that war either. They didn't enrich above 20% when they had the capability to do so.

At some point you have to look at history and start to wonder how much of a nuclear weapons threat they really are. They aren't Saddam Hussein or North Korea.

South Africa was able to build a bomb in something like 12 years. Brazil probably built a bomb in the mid 80's. If the Islamic Republic truly wanted a bomb then they would have built one during their time in power. They have had 36 years to do so.

Further, we have ****ed up Iran relations since 1953 due to our covert and overt ops over there. We created a ton of anti-western, anti-American blowback after our operations there. This is a good framework for a deal imo. We need to continue to try to normalize relations with Iran and we need to quit threatening war.


Also, go check out All the Shah's Men and/or Oil Kings. They both give some great insight on Iran and the Middle East.

 

"The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails."

 

3. Tell Congress stop living in a cave and enrich their understanding of the world in order to create a viable solution.

 

I just read about Mohammad Mosaddegh and the history of his overthrow by the MI6 and CIA. Sounds like they committed a massive mistake back then by overthrowing a true democratic leader.

 

Easy to work with a reasonable, rational Congress.

Tough to work with the insane clown posse.

Obama's foreign policy failures- death of ivan ilyich

Bush's foreign policy failures- war and peace

 

BWAAAAAHAHAHA

Junior high student?

 

Congress has no interest in any sort of deal with Iran because they don't want the administration to get any credit for anything (a recurring theme since 2009) and because they prefer the military option over diplomacy. So naturally, the right wants any deal to go through Congress because they know that a right-leaning Congress will kill said deal. I shudder even thinking about what this situation would look like right now if Mitt Romney was sitting in the White House.

 

He might have a similar deal and the whole Congress and American public is amazed at the administration ability to actually come up with major concessions from Iran, a new path forward that increases the chance of a no-nuke Iran and a real chance of starting a new relationship that might even lead to lasting peace and a new ally down the road. Even if none of that, I'm quite sure Congress and the American public would stand behind him instead of behind Israel blatant attempt to derail American position. Certainly, Congress wouldn't ever be actively working to derail American position themselves.

But it's Obama, so

 

Read that All the Shah's men book if you get a chance. It's like reading a novel but it's just reality. Truly a tragedy...it's too much for me to write about on my phone now but those events have shaped American foreign policy for decades in a very bad way. As an American it really makes you angry, hurt, and disappointed to read.

 

when you feel the urge to reply to bigpuffery, just envision that he is stittng there masterbating with nipple clamps eagerly awaiting the humiliation

 

He who masturbates is only screwing himself.

 

Ideally, what they would like to do is delay a deal, hope that a Republican President wins in 2016, then make the deal with him (b/c it won't be her) at the helm. Who are we kidding- this was even mentioned specifically by a Republican- have to research to find out which one.

Fo shizzle.

 

Exactly what comes to mind every time I see another of your vapid, inane posts.

Failures which exist almost entirely in the deluded minds of biased partisans such as yourself.

Yeah, who does the president think he is to engage in foreign policy as the Constitution explicitly directs?

Bull f%^&ing ****. Just repeating a lie like this one doesn't make it true, it just makes you an even bigger liar.

Perhaps you can cite an instance in our nation's history where the president invited sitting congresspeople to engage in foreign policy negotiations. Such a citation would give your statement nominal validity, but it isn't like you need facts to back up your opinion, I'm sure you heard it on Fox and thus it must be true.

As usual, nothing more than bigpuffery.

 

It is just mind boggling that you post non-stop about the middle east and you just now learned about the U.S./British role in the overthrow of Mosaddegh and putting the Shah in power. You can't understand **** about the region without understanding the fall out from that pivotal event. You really need to post about the middle east a lot less and go read about the history of the region a lot more.

 

Oh, gifford1967, you think an overthrow in 1953 justifies Islamism in any way today? Yes? If not, then **** up.

 

Wow, you didn't even get the date right. The Shah was installed in 1953 and brutally oppressed the Iranian people with the support of the West, leading to the Islamic Revolution and the tension we currently have today.

I agree with gifford, you should stop posting on this subject until you actually learn some facts about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état

 

All forms of logic break down with you.

 

SMDH