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Iran: No deal reached, only framework; Iran can still enrich

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  1. Exiled

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    Iran is a nationalist state rather than a religious one where 40% of Persians control the rest of ethnic groups ,the name of Iran it self is relativity newly adapted which means basically the iron people .

    they are more likely going to use a nuclear threat toward Saudis than Israel.

    its not really about Sunni-****ia hate . its about dominance and control.


    recently there was a soccer game between an Iranian teams v. a Saudi one in Iran. the crowd were rooting for the Saudi's team which end up causing a few usual death cases

    [youtube]/dQJQyZOT3CA[/youtube]
     
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    You really haven't said anything at all to be honest. Again, vapid personal attacks: no insight. And certainly no solutions.
     
  3. Northside Storm

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    I hate the Iranian government as well, I just don't think threatening them with war and sanctioning the people of Iran is the way to go about opposing them and as long as we have an exaggerated discourse where that simple fact is ignored, and people tend to emotionally overdrive into punishing Iran, the progress you highlight will never happen.

    I have friends who were in protests on the ground--they were met with live bullets from the get-go. Don't take my stance as an endorsement of Iran's government in any way, shape or form.
     
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    Nothing that wouldn't have flown right over your head...as usual.

    Much of what you said certainly sounded like it.
     
  5. Northside Storm

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    I noticed you stopped addressing actual arguments.

    Nothing that wouldn't have flown right over your head...as usual.
     
  6. A_3PO

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    Harsh sanctions were the proper course of action and drove the thugs to the negotiating table. Pressure must stay on Iran until the finish line is crossed and the thugs are out of power.

    You don't need to tell me about controlling emotions regarding Iran. Most in this country had no clue how much Iran progressed since 1981 and still thought people there were burning American flags every day for fun, until the protests in 2009. It's as if a massive light bulb went off here.

    Regarding rhetoric, that's a part of American discourse. Everyone in the world knows that. When the supreme leader of Iran says a country should be extinguished, that is something completely different.
     
  7. Northside Storm

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    Responses to bolded statements in numeric order.

    1) http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/08/srdja-popovic-revolution-serbian-activist-protest

    Meet Srdja Popovic, the secret architect of global revolution

    The Serbian activist who formed the Otpor! movement in 1998 to overthrow Slobodan Milosevic has taken his philosophy of protest – laced with humour and rock’n’roll – worldwide. He explains how to mobilise people and change the world


    2) Cool.

    3) So--that's why we can disregard the threats from American leadership often backed by actual wars as opposed to the threats from Iranian leadership? Because that's just how Americans talk and war? :confused:

    These aren't bystanders to history: I've cited two sitting American presidents and multiple members of a Congressional majority. If there was a war in Iran, it would build on the legacy of the former group and use the authority of the latter.
     
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  8. AroundTheWorld

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    Only an intern would believe something like this.
     
  9. Northside Storm

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    What have you done lately?
     
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    http://disquietreservations.blogspot.ca/2011/11/british-and-us-governments-installed.html


    A very interesting perspective

    "In November 1978, President Carter named the Bilderberg group's George Ball, another member of the Trilateral Commission, to head a special White House Iran task force under the National Security Council's Brzezinski. Ball recommended that Washington drop support for the Shah of Iran and support the fundamentalistic Islamic opposition of Ayatollah Khomeini. Robert Bowie from the CIA was one of the lead 'case officers' in the new CIA-led coup against the man their covert actions had placed into power 25 years earlier.

    Their scheme was based on a detailed study of the phenomenon of Islamic fundamentalism, as presented by British Islamic expert, Dr. Bernard Lewis, then on assignment at Princeton University in the United States. Lewis's scheme, which was unveiled at the May 1979 Bilderberg meeting in Austria, endorsed the radical Muslim Brotherhood movement behind Khomeini, in order to promote balkanization of the entire Muslim Near East along tribal and religious lines. Lewis argued that the West should encourage autonomous groups such as the Kurds, Armenians, Lebanese Maronites, Ethiopian Copts, Azerbaijani Turks, and so forth. The chaos would spread in what he termed an 'Arc of Crisis,' which would spill over into Muslim regions of the Soviet Union.

    The coup against the Shah was run by British and American intelligence, with the bombastic American, Brzezinski, taking public 'credit' for getting rid of the 'corrupt' Shah, while the British characteristically remained safely in the background.."
     
  11. GladiatoRowdy

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    Along with various prominent American politicians.

    :rolleyes:
     
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    Please point me to the global revolution?
     
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    You don't like clicking on links and reading through them, do you.

    Again: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/08/srdja-popovic-revolution-serbian-activist-protest

    If you read more and insulted less I think you'd know more.
     
  14. Northside Storm

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    here it is in pictorial form, in case words are a roadblock.

    All of these movements sought advice from Popovic and his NGO Canvas.

    Ukraine's Maidan Protests

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    The Arab Spring (Tunisia + Egypt)

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    Iranian Green Movement

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    Indian Anti-Rape Protests

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    The Saffron Revolution (Burma)

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    You're welcome.

    I do the exact same for people on Hacker News and Quora--they just happen to be more fun since they don't start from limited knowledge or savvy, and they have a propensity to actually read content presented to them so that I don't have to spoonfeed them everything.

    I usually save all of the stuff I write out in Asana. In fact, a few of my forum posts here have actually been published in a few places. win-win. If you had actual insights, you might have just found yourself in the outlets you love to read ;)
     
  17. AroundTheWorld

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    How much do you get paid?
     
  18. Northside Storm

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    sensitive question but whatever. I'll oblige you because if anything, I'm open as f**k.

    Let's just say that writing is a passion I'd do anyways, and the larger tech outlets pay decently for it or give me really good exposure. It's more outlets like the Atlantic that I'm trying to wrangle out actual money from, though that's going slowly. My writing has gotten me a lot of PR/startup/government contracts I do for fun that often range to $1/word or more (I think my best one was a contract for web copy that came out to $5/word).

    Writing is lean though, unless you get to a blockbuster book. My main line of business--and whoda thunk it, but people pay a lot for creating and optimizing web funnels for conversions if you have a decent amount of UI/UX, copy, PR, HTML/CSS/JS/Python/Rails, ads and analytics skills. I do something full-time, but I also take contracts on the side. It pays...well.

    Quick example of something I did recently: structuring a mobile funnel with Mixpanel and Intercom.io that helped analyse and convert people through a payment processing roadblock that is typical of most apps: credit card upload. I made the process more seamless and trackable, and also added reminder emails for credit card abandonment and live support for people on the form.

    I won't reveal how much I got paid for it, but that startup doubled the rate of signups with credit cards. This was a startup that had raised a round of $5m + and had significant revenue, so it made a tangible difference of tens of thousands of dollars--and if you're talking in terms of their valuation, probably millions as this was a major roadblock for their upcoming Series B.
     
  19. AroundTheWorld

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    But have you slept with p*rn stars?
     
  20. Northside Storm

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    I don't have enough f**king time to sleep with many regular girls never mind p*rn stars.

    I do spend probably way more time on here than I should. lol
     

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