Iran: No deal reached, only framework; Iran can still enrich

We have commonalities with people in every country of the world, except maybe the tribesmen of Papua New Guinea who are cannibilists. But not every country is an ally, the difference of any relationship with a country is how we interact with their government. So no, that alone should not be enough for us to align with them.

 

If you think that is all we have in common then you obviously do not understand both cultures equally.

 

Despite conflicts with each other most of the governments in that area feel that way about Israel... Not just Iran.

 

For one thing, American leaders don't "constantly say" bomb Iran. You equating the two is amazing to me.

Tell you what: When a sitting American president says Iran should be "annihilated", I will join you. Don't hold your breath.

 

The American president doesn't have to say anything like that: he can just imply Iran is part of an Axis of Evil (while Tehran was providing America with intelligence on how to best attack the Taliban) then start a war with Iraq another member of that "Axis" that plunges the nation into sectarian conflict with 150,000 dead.

This after another American president that this one admired actually sold Iran weapons illegally, then helped a tyrant nearby properly place chemical weapons attacks on Iran's army.

I mean, the American president uses PR-friendly words, but if there's a nation that has ACTUALLY come close to having "annihilated" a country lately rather than just talking about it, it's been America.

 

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Most have given up on actually trying.

Iran continues to do anything possible to kill Jews.

 

Please, go on, since you're such an expert on the topic.

How do we have more in common with regular Iranians than we do with regular Russians or regular Argentinians?

 

which is why there is a significant Jewish community in Iran

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews

 

According to the most recent Iranian census, the Jewish population of Iran is 8,756.

 

8,000 Jews is hardly significant, there were about 250,000 who left as soon as the Shah was overthrown.

Alberto Nisman, that Argentine prosecutor that was assassinated recently, had evidence that directly tied the killing of 200 Jews in the Buenos Aires bombing of the JCC to Iran. Via Hezbollah, there have been a lot of killings of Jews worldwide that they're behind. They are not innocent, they are a murderous regime that has a lot of Jewish blood on their hands.

 

no, my point is that if you have a discourse where you think that Iran is out to "kill all Jews", you're misinformed, you have a shallow understanding of the Middle East, and anything that you say or propose defies actual fact or reason.

That level of discourse is base and needs to be changed with the truth. That's my point.

Now, as to whether Iran poses a threat to Israel--that's a strawman to my original reply. But I think it is abundantly clear that both sides pose threats to one another with the Mossad employing targeted assassinations of scienticts (despicable) to make their point.

And I think it is rather clear that after ten years of failed war in the Middle East, negotiation is preferable to defuse the mutual acrimony.

 

well that's 8,000 Jews that they haven't killed yet despite doing "anything possible" to do so

you missed this btw:

 

Only your posts do.

Your point is absolutely invalid because you lack a basic understanding of anything.

No, it's not. It is THE essential question. And the answer is yes.

 

If, from your mom's basement, you have decided that that is in indication that Iran is a beacon of religious freedom and a safe haven for Jews, then you are truly even more delusional than one already knew.

You don't think there is a reason that their number went from 80,000 to 8,000 within a few decades?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries#Post_1979_Revolution

 

Should we bomb Saudi Arabia too? Any country that poses a threat to Israel? Would most of Europe qualify too with their errant resolution votes?

What about countries that pose a threat to American military interests--like allies who sell your secrets to the Chinese and get you to violate international law to help them procure nukes covertly?

 

Did I say that we should bomb Iran? No, I didn't. Who said it? Ah yes - the voices in your head.

 

the statement I responded to was

I don't have to argue s**t about religious freedom and neither am I in the face of such a ludicrous argument. They recorded 8,000 alive in the census. Point finale.

 

No no, don't you understand? It's all "empty rhetoric".

What's really ironic is I've believed for the last 10+ years (and posted here) that Iran is a natural ally of the U.S. against Sunni extremists and that time is on our side. Eventually, a peaceful, integrated Iran will vault past the Arab world in standing and leave them in the dust. It's something we must reach for.

However, for now, the thugs remain in charge. It will be a great day when the Iranian government reflects the will of the people.