Just a little recap regarding how this "rim-protector" thing started : A poster above posted the description of Dmo : - an above average "rim- protector" - a below average (or bad, I forgot the exact wordings) rebounder and a non shot blocker. So I was wonder what kind of player whose bad at both area and can still be called as a rim-protector?
I'm not sure how that makes it better. As for the current stats: http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/defense/?sort=FGP_DEFEND_RIM&dir=-1&CF=FGA_DEFEND_RIM*GE*5 They are not difficult to find.
1. What does "Rim Protector" mean then? 2. Can you point to some games or stats that show his eliteness as a PF? We seem to be CENTER BY COMMITTEE more than anything I've seen everyone take a shot at the opposing teams Center and PF Rocket River
You and that word "Elite" LOL. You've obviously never played the sport of basketball before in calling DMO a rim protector, he does not impose any fear on his opponent in attacking the rim for christs sakes. He's a good positional defender and an awesome post up player out of the block. The true definition of a rim protector is DWIGHT HOWARD, opposing players know he's there waiting near the rim when he's in the game, DMO is not that.
4.5 miles per hour is his average speed this season - it's an elite speed for 7'-footer, he sprints every damn fastbreak and goes full speed back. He is the best big to run fastbreak in the league, no doubt. His pass after defensive rebound (would like to see him rebound more tho) or a steal just screams ''let's go guys'' Spoiler [youtube]R4k3sLidI1k[/youtube] f.e. Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson 4.4mph; Kemba Walker, Damian Lillard and Chandler Parsons 4.3mph
Your post also clearly proved my point : The so called LOF doesn't come here just because of Lin, they are always exist among us.
No problem 1. A "rim protector" is someone who stops the opposing team from scoring at the rim and as you could see http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/pl...ND_RIM&dir=-1&CF=FGA_DEFEND_RIM*GE*6|GP*GE*65 He's doing pretty damn well at that still despite playing many games out of position. 2. Well if you look at the list I just provided of guys with a similar sample size, how many of them are PF's who are ahead of DMo even with him playing more than half of his games out of position? Not many. Dwight Howard is absolutely a great rim protector, but you seem to be another person who conflates the definition of "shot blocker" with "rim protector" they are two separate things. Shot blockers often are good rim protectors, but not always and vice versa. LOL what the hell are you even babbling about?
It's also not difficult to find my initial post on this issue, which read as follows: The poster posited that one cannot be an effective rim protector unless he is likewise an elite rebounder and shot blocker and thus, questioned how DMo could be regarded as a rim protector when he does not excel at either skill. DMo wasn't an elite rebounder/shot blocker when he was doing an above-average job at protecting the rim as of December, as far as I know. There is a difference between posting a stat and repeatedly acknowledging that it is a small sample size and thus, not dispositive - and posting a stat and insisting that it controls, despite small sample size and lack of context.
Okay, I'll play. Marreese Speights, Brandon Wright, and David Lee are all better rim protectors than Anthony Davis, according to this data.
That's why you need to add filters to eliminate those without similar sample sizes. Anthony Davis is facing over 7 attempts at the rim per game, there's only 10 players in the NBA who have played a comparable number of games with more than 7 attempts at the rim per game that have a better FG% at the rim than Anthony Davis.
I used 5, because I wanted a reasonable range around Dmo, who faces 6.3. If you use 7 attempts and 40 games, Davis is 14th out of 31. If you do everything you can to make Davis look as good as possible, and use his numbers of 7.3 att and 56 games, then he is 11th out of 26.
AD may block shots, but he lacks strenght to defend the post even against PF's. That's why his stats the way they are.
