2015 Super Spring Training NBA Fantasy Draft Brehs

I think thething has Pippen now instead of Kirilenko, just not sure if he's starting him or what. That's why I listed his team as missing.

 

Yea he has pippen. I'm sure he would start him at sf and move westbrook to the bench but I don't know if you guys want to make that switch for him.

 

Oh, for a moment, I thought that Thething is facing Jamers. Hakeem and James Harden vs. Shaq and Reggie Miller. Shaq breaks Hakeem and finally has his vengeance, and Reggie drains 3 after 3 on Harden with trash talk in between, until Harden is forced to go back to the bench.

But no, that's not meant to happen.

 

Matchups:

*****Matchup 1

Oelman

PG - Steve Nash / Aaron Brooks
SG - Manu Ginobili / Kevin Martin
SF - Grant Hill / Trevor Ariza
PF - Rasheed Wallace / Carl Landry
C - Tyson Chandler / Brad Miller


VS


Donatas

g Chauncey Billups
g Allen Iverson
f Shane Battier
f Dirk Nowitzki
c Andrew Bogut

Bench: Antonio McDyess, Allan Houston, Wally Szczerbiak, Doug Christie, Nene



******Matchup 2

RedNation

pg:Jason Kidd
sg:Brandon Roy
sf:Carmelo Anthony
pf:Lamarcus Aldridge
c:Yao Ming

Bench:
Jason Terry, Michael Redd, Latrell Sprewell, Luis Scola, Theo Ratliff


VS

Spooner

PG - Deron Williams/Derrick Rose
SG - Dwayne Wade/Raja Bell
SF - Danny Granger/Stephen Jackson
PF - Chris Webber/Al Jefferson
C - Marc Gasol/Emeka Okafor



*****Matchup 3


Yung T

PG - Tony Parker/Mo Williams
SG - Joe Johnson/Cuttino Mobley
SF - Paul Pierce/Eddie Jones
PF - Shareef Abdur-Rahim/David West
C - David Robinson/Alonzo Mourning


VS

VoA


Pg: Arenas/ Conley
SG: Artest/ Eric Gordon
SF: Prince/ Gay
PF: Stodemire/ Lee
C: Howard/ Noah




*****Matchup 4


Jmc

PG Mike Bibby/Steve Francis
SG Tracy McGrady/ Corey Maggette
SF Richard Jefferson/ Jamal Mashburn
PF Zach Randolph/ Rashard Lewis
C Ben Wallace/ Erick Dampier


VS

Jamers

PG - Rajon Rondo
SG - Reggie Miller
SF - Peja Stojakovic
PF - Pau Gasol
C - Shaquille O'Neal

Bench:
G - Monta Ellis
G - Michael Finley
F - Loul Deng
F - Kevin Love
C - Chris Kaman



*****Matchup 5


thething

Stockton
Ray Allen
Scottie Pippen
Malone
Olajuwon

Bench:
Westbrick
Harden
Laettner
Boozer
Ewing


VS


LCAhmed

PG:Baron Davis
SG: Kobe Bryant
SF: Gerald Wallace
PF:Elton Brand
C:Jermaine O'Neal

Bench:

PG: Jason Williams
SG: Jerry Stackhouse
SF: Caron Butler
PF: Kenyon Martin
C:Jamaal Magloire



*****Matchup 6

Horry

Steph Curry
Michael Jordan
Andrei Kirilenko
Kevin Garnett
Dikembe Mutombo

Stephon Marbury
Jamal Crawford
Lamar Odom
Antoine Walker
Zydrunas Ilgauskus


VS

VBG

PG - Sam Cassell
SG - Vince Carter
SF - Lebron James
PF - Shawn Marion
C - Andrew Bynum
Bench - Devin Harris, Hedo Turkoglu, Mike Miller, Al Horford, Arvydas[/QUOTE]

 

hmm oelman will exploit PnR's forcing dirk to guard the rim and nash pick them apart.
Winner: Oleman

i think all these games end up 120-125 but ill go Rednation in 7 games
WINNER: Rednation

can't vote but i know who i would
WINNER: NO PICK

jammers just crushes them with sgaq and pau scoring over and over
WINNER: JAMERS

KOBE sends of the greatest put together 90's teams home in a sweep.
WINNER: LCA

i would just wanna see MJ, lebron and vince all play against each other.

however this is the 2000's so I'm sticking with VBG
WINNER:VBG

 

I spread enough to get you again i guess lol. I got everyone i think.

Will vote later when i take a poo at work :grin:

 

I'll look at some now, I'll finish later.

RedNation vs. Spooner

Spooner: a talented team, well spaced floor, an elite penetrating scorer, a great passing PF. Wade wasn't used to playing next to a very good point guard, and Granger often had tunnel vision, but still, the ball should move well. Defense is pretty weak, Marc Gasol wasn't great on that end for the first few years, Webber is just ok, Granger is below average in his peak offensive years. About Marc Gasol, I think he's actually a decent defensive option in this matchup, he was always a tough behemoth in the paint and that's important against Yao. But he wasn't a good help defender until recently, and I think this team will have issues with penetration and pick and roll defense.

RedNation: I think that's an even more talented team, when Yao is healthy. Starting lineup is more talented, and I think the bench is better too. It will probably have more ball sharing issues, Jason Kidd, Brandon Roy and Carmelo all were accustomed to having the ball quite a bit. The main thing is Yao's health. We assume that players are healthy, but I don't think we assume that they are magically healthy. If this series is replayed 10 times, Yao probably misses a few of them and he's not 100% fit in a few others.

Overall, I'll pick Spooner's team. If Yao was completely reliable, I'd give Rednation's team a 60% chance to win this just based on talent advantage, maybe even more. But Yao's just not that reliable.


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Yung-T vs. VoA

Yung-T: When I saw that you picked Alonzo Mourning in round 2, I kind of wondered if you looked at dates wrong. Now I see Alonzo on the bench, so I guess it did happen. I probably prefer David West in the starting lineup instead of Abdur Rahim, for defensive reasons mainly. He's a tougher player, and that starting lineup really lacks on defense, almost all players are below average. Rahim is bad on defense, but offensively he can do almost everything that you could ask of a SF/PF. I like that Eddie Jones can be brought in for defense. Offensively, I like this team. Ok spacing (I wouldn't mind one more shooter because all of those perimeter players will want to go inside a lot), great size and play inside from wings, smart players, ball movement should be good. Nice bench. But just in terms of talent, it's really noticeable that something happened at the top of the draft and there's one star too few.

VoA: I think defense should be great, maybe not 2004 Pistons great, there are 3 elite defenders, but also 2 crappy ones in the starting lineup. Not much defense on the bench. A very talented team overall. 4 legit all stars. I think this team lacks shooting / spacing, and I don't see much of it on the bench either. I think Amar'e and Dwight in the same offense is a bit of an overkill, they are similar players, Amar'e can shoot a bit and can finish in more creative ways, Dwight gets more garbage points, but in the end they need to play mostly the same role on offense. Arenas is a very good player but he tends to stop the ball and waste the clock, he's not the best or most willing passer, in some games he forgets about teammates and wastes shot clock after shot clock. And then there are two not-so-good shooters on the wing in Artest and Prince. Also, Artest didn't like others taking his shots in his prime. So overall I think this team's offense won't flow well, poor spacing, quite a bit of standing around and chucking, potential chemistry issues. It will be up to Dwight and Amar'e to get some boards and make things happen if Arenas isn't hot.

In other words, VoA has a traditional Pacers team.

I'll pick VoA to win with defense here. Artest / Prince with Dwight inside will be hard to overcome. Offensively it won't be pretty, but I think VoA has enough of talent and athletic advantage in the paint to pull through.

 

Never underestimate the heart of a champion.

 

Owlman vs donuts

Pretty evenly matched. I love owls bench(of course) even though hill is the weak spot. He was practically injured and washed up all ready. And ariza was practically all athleticism and decent defense. Which would be fine if you were fscing a quality 3 but the opposite side is the same. Owl has no one to stop or slow down iverson, and lets face it iverson in his prime was a monster to handle.

Donuts set up a team around iverson and you can tell. It works. The offense should be smooth with dirk trailing on breaks or spotting up for kick outs. I understand now why donuts went bogut over camby because he does need the extra little offense with this team.

Donuts wins 4-2

RedN vs spoon

i think Reds team is well rounded. I will assume health unlike dfb. Its a 7 game series and he is fine for that. Only problem i see is there are way too many high usage players. It could become a problem.

As for spoons team i just don't like gasol here. Sure he was ok but not what he is today. And against a prime yao he gets eaten alive. Also lacks the defenders to slow down melo roy and kidd.

Ill take redN to win 4-2

 

I thought 99/00 would be included and then drafted Zo because of his monster season then. Messed my whole draft up.

 

Yep, that's what I suspected.

Oh btw, I just noticed that we only have 6 matchups. Maloe and FTW got byes. I think they probably should've played in this round, because these byes don't really help anyway. Next round we will still have 5 teams.

 

Jmc vs. Jamers

I'm undecided at first glance, I'll maybe look again. I like both teams a lot. I like Jmc's bench quite a bit more, he has better perimeter players too. But Jamers has Shaq, who is unstoppable in his prime, and Rondo will get him the ball.

Undecided.

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thething vs. LCAhmed

thething: He didn't take his team seriously at the end, judging by trade ideas. Still, it's a nice team. Stockton-Malone is a nice core even in early 2000s, they won 50+ games one year without much else on the roster. Ray Allen is a legit star who's also a great fit here. Defensively it's ok, offensively I think it's good. In terms of overall talent, it's a strong team, but considerably less talented than LCAhmed's.


LCAhmed: Probably the best defense in the draft, every starter is above average to great. A very tough team. Offensively, a super athletic, mobile, physically overpowering team. Very dynamic players. A team that takes a lot of 3s but doesn't make them at high percentage. Quite a few bad long 2s. Jermaine O'Neal can be near unstoppable when he's willing to post up, but most of the time he floats at midrange and thinks he's Kobe. I'd really love a great spot up 3pt shooter here instead of Gerald Wallace, I think his skillset is really an overkill for this team, he's good at things that his teammates are already great at.

I'll pick LCAhmed's team. It's a suffocating defensive team, and offensively more talented, even if it will probably chuck its way into a loss or two.

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Horry vs. VBG

I'll try to look at it later.

 

And yep, lets add BigMaloe vs. FTW to this round if no one minds. Byes just don't make sense in this round. If we don't do byes this round, then we will only have to do 1 bye next round, and that's it, everything works after that. But if BigMaloe and FTW get byes in this round, then we will need to do 3 byes next round, and next round will have just 1 pair. Or we will need to do 1 bye next round, then another bye in another round. Basically, it will be a mess.

 

Those who voted already, vote for Matchup 7 now.

Matchups:

*****Matchup 1

Oelman

PG - Steve Nash / Aaron Brooks
SG - Manu Ginobili / Kevin Martin
SF - Grant Hill / Trevor Ariza
PF - Rasheed Wallace / Carl Landry
C - Tyson Chandler / Brad Miller


VS


Donatas

g Chauncey Billups
g Allen Iverson
f Shane Battier
f Dirk Nowitzki
c Andrew Bogut

Bench: Antonio McDyess, Allan Houston, Wally Szczerbiak, Doug Christie, Nene



******Matchup 2

RedNation

pg:Jason Kidd
sg:Brandon Roy
sf:Carmelo Anthony
pf:Lamarcus Aldridge
c:Yao Ming

Bench:
Jason Terry, Michael Redd, Latrell Sprewell, Luis Scola, Theo Ratliff


VS

Spooner

PG - Deron Williams/Derrick Rose
SG - Dwayne Wade/Raja Bell
SF - Danny Granger/Stephen Jackson
PF - Chris Webber/Al Jefferson
C - Marc Gasol/Emeka Okafor



*****Matchup 3


Yung T

PG - Tony Parker/Mo Williams
SG - Joe Johnson/Cuttino Mobley
SF - Paul Pierce/Eddie Jones
PF - Shareef Abdur-Rahim/David West
C - David Robinson/Alonzo Mourning


VS

VoA


Pg: Arenas/ Conley
SG: Artest/ Eric Gordon
SF: Prince/ Gay
PF: Stodemire/ Lee
C: Howard/ Noah




*****Matchup 4


Jmc

PG Mike Bibby/Steve Francis
SG Tracy McGrady/ Corey Maggette
SF Richard Jefferson/ Jamal Mashburn
PF Zach Randolph/ Rashard Lewis
C Ben Wallace/ Erick Dampier


VS

Jamers

PG - Rajon Rondo
SG - Reggie Miller
SF - Peja Stojakovic
PF - Pau Gasol
C - Shaquille O'Neal

Bench:
G - Monta Ellis
G - Michael Finley
F - Loul Deng
F - Kevin Love
C - Chris Kaman



*****Matchup 5


thething

Stockton
Ray Allen
Scottie Pippen
Malone
Olajuwon

Bench:
Westbrick
Harden
Laettner
Boozer
Ewing


VS


LCAhmed

PG:Baron Davis
SG: Kobe Bryant
SF: Gerald Wallace
PF:Elton Brand
C:Jermaine O'Neal

Bench:

PG: Jason Williams
SG: Jerry Stackhouse
SF: Caron Butler
PF: Kenyon Martin
C:Jamaal Magloire



*****Matchup 6

Horry

Steph Curry
Michael Jordan
Andrei Kirilenko
Kevin Garnett
Dikembe Mutombo

Stephon Marbury
Jamal Crawford
Lamar Odom
Antoine Walker
Zydrunas Ilgauskus


VS

VBG

PG - Sam Cassell
SG - Vince Carter
SF - Lebron James
PF - Shawn Marion
C - Andrew Bynum
Bench - Devin Harris, Hedo Turkoglu, Mike Miller, Al Horford, Arvydas



*****Matchup 7

FTW

G - Gary "the Glove" Payton
G - Rip Hamilton
F - Bruce Bowen
F - Tim "The Big Fundamental" Duncan
C - Chris Bosh

Bench
G - Andre "the Professor" Miller
G - Jason Richardson
F - Josh Howard
F - Al Harrington
C - Mehmet Okur

VS.

BigMaloe

PG - Chris Paul
SG - Andre Iguodala
SF - Kevin Durant
PF - Antawn Jamison
C - Marcus Camby
Bench
PG - Jose Calderon
SG - Ben Gordon
SF - Robert Horry
PF - Josh Smith
C - Vlade Divac

 

Actually, nevermind, I had a brain fart. LCAhmed was right, byes work well in this round.

Maloe and FTW get byes, ignore my last post.

 

I'm in the same boat bud. I thought I could use 99-00 26 pts and 7 rebounds Grant Hill. Total waste of a pick, he probably would have gone after the 5th round if I had known that.

 

For those of you saying that I have no defenders on the wing, Wade and Raja Bell were all defensive selections. Stephen Jackson is a very good defender and Danny granger is solid. Lmao. By the way, you can say that Gasol doesn't provide post defense, but Emeka Okafor was an all defense selection as well. It's not like Gasol was even bad. He scored his highest number of points on the best percentage of his career in 2009. Sometimes you guys say things that make absolutely no sense whatsoever. No perimeter defense? Really?

 

The question should be "how will Brandon Roy Carmelo Anthony and Michael Redd stop Wade and Granger." You have the audacity to talk about my perimeter defense? Good lord. That statement is almost as dumb as saying Wade never played next to a good pg before. You are really gonna get behind that statement? I mean maybe try thinking before you speak next time