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U.S. Senate GOP throws USA under bus and aligns with Iran

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 10, 2015.

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  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    A better deal? They don't even know what the deal is yet!

    And for Cotton to go in there and much up a negotiations but sticking his low IQ brain into the mess is just stupid.

    He doesn't get it he is so stupid. This isn't about the U.S. putting sanctions and stopping Iran. Sanctions don't work just coming from the U.S. YOU NEED THE WHOLE WORLD.

    And the world doesn't care about what the U.S. congress wants. If they muck things up, they will just say, "you know what, you aren't able to execute on your end so we're dropping the sanctions all together".

    Russia and China and simply trade with Iran if the U.S. goes to far. Cotton doesn't understand this - because he's an idiot.
     
    #181 Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 16, 2015
  2. Dubious

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    Cotton speaks like he was an excellent debater in Junior United Nations.

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  3. Dubious

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    Cotton speaks like he was an excellent debater in Junior United Nations.

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  4. Commodore

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    We know it permits enrichment and does not address ballistic missile capability. That should be a nonstarter.
     
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  5. Commodore

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    could this be a violation of The Logan Act?

    Democrats prepared to buck White House on Iran nuclear deal
     
    #185 Commodore, Mar 16, 2015
  6. GladiatoRowdy

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    Do you have a source for this or is it something that "everybody knows"?
     
    #186 GladiatoRowdy, Mar 16, 2015
  7. GladiatoRowdy

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    Since you STILL don't seem to understand, executive agreements aren't subject to Congressional approvals like treaties are.

    Congress is certainly free to pass legislation regarding this issue, but given the current climate between Republicans and Democrats, I would see a veto-overriding majority on anything as extremely unlikely.
     
    #187 GladiatoRowdy, Mar 16, 2015
  8. Amiga

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    I did read it as he wanting regime change, which would fall in line with him wanting no negotiation and no deal.
     
    #188 Amiga, Mar 16, 2015
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I hope a deal is reached, and then Congress scuttles it, and passes new sanctions, and then Iran decides to pursue a Nuke and Russia and China drop their sanctions given the difficulty of the U.S. not being serious to negotiate.

    That end would be fine with me because it would put Iran having a nuke on the Republicans hands.
     
    #189 Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 16, 2015
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    I was going to respond to this, line for line, but honestly there's nothing at all of substance in your post. Nothing at all. I would suggest that you re-read the comment you are replying to and try to do a better job of comprehending what I said.
     
    #190 Bobbythegreat, Mar 16, 2015
  11. GladiatoRowdy

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    LOL, I respond point by point and you respond with this weak sauce?

    Try again, rookie, I completely understood your "argument." It is truly sad that you can't substantively reply.
     
    #191 GladiatoRowdy, Mar 16, 2015
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    At the very least, you could reply to the direct questions I posed in that post. Your refusal to do so indicates that the charges I leveled in the other portions are indeed accurate.
     
    #192 GladiatoRowdy, Mar 16, 2015
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    If a better poster has questions about my post then I'll explain, you're a waste of time.
     
    #193 Bobbythegreat, Mar 16, 2015
  14. GladiatoRowdy

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    ROFL, I love it. I ask specific, topical questions about the "Debate and Discussion" thread at hand and this is your response.

    HILARIOUS, keep it coming.
     
    #194 GladiatoRowdy, Mar 16, 2015
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    Can someone explain how imposing harsher sanctions on Iran will prevent them from getting a nuke? I understand being skeptical of negotiations with them, but it seems like the Republican plan just involves steps that lead closer to a war. Not to mention the fact that more sanctions require cooperation from other countries which doesn't seem plausible at this point.
     
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    That's whats truly hilarious about this entire episode and its just glossed over like a minor detail by these political hacks. If our partners back out then U.S. sanctions are basically worthless.
     
    #196 Teen Wolf, Mar 16, 2015
  17. Commodore

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    If the choice is a nuclear armed Iran or war, the latter is preferable. Congress has been very clear that an Iran with nukes is unacceptable.

    It's Obama that's not being straight with people. He can live with Iran having nukes.

    War doesn't mean an invasion or regime change necessarily. It could just be forcible destruction of nuclear facilities.

    I don't think Cotton is under any illusions about the likelihood of sanctions stopping enrichment, but you use all the sticks in your arsenal before resorting to military force.
     
    #197 Commodore, Mar 16, 2015
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    Four More Wars!

    (vote republican)
     
    #198 Baba Booey, Mar 16, 2015
  19. Amiga

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    Why is negotiating for a deal not a stick in your arsenal?
     
    #199 Amiga, Mar 16, 2015
  20. Baba Booey

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    Because that's what Obama wants to do.
     
    #200 Baba Booey, Mar 16, 2015
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