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New York Times: Hillary Clinton illegally used private email for all State Dept. business

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  1. MoonDogg

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  2. Commodore

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    over/under on how long before we get to the "GOP budget cuts prevented the State Dept. from archiving emails" phase?
     
  3. Dairy Ashford

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    It's a trifecta with "no laws broken or charges filed" and "voting public comes to senses and moves on."
     
  4. TheresTheDagger

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    Guys, guys, guys....

    You have it all wrong. Who's gonna win Dancing with the Stars this season!
     
  5. FV Santiago

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    As I correctly informed you on March 8, the Clinton email story was planted by the Obama Administration. Valerie Jarrett is the closest person to Obama.

    http://nypost.com/2015/03/14/obama-adviser-behind-leak-of-hillary-clintons-e-mail-scandal/

    Obama senior adviser Valerie Jarrett leaked to the press details of Hillary Clinton’s use of a private e-mail address during her time as secretary of state, sources tell me.
    But she did so through people outside the *administration, so the story couldn’t be traced to her or the White House.
    In addition, at Jarrett’s behest, the State Department was ordered to launch a series of investigations into Hillary’s conduct at Foggy Bottom, including the use of her expense account, the disbursement of funds, her contact with foreign leaders and her possible collusion with the Clinton Foundation.
    Six separate probes into Hillary’s performance have been *going on at the State Department. I’m told that the e-mail scandal was timed to come out just as Hillary was on the verge of formally announcing that she was running for president — and that there’s more to come.
     
  6. Dubious

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    Did you inform us as to why The President would do that? Because the tabloid article's reasons seem a little petty when you are talking about possibly losing the last vestige of rational national politics to the party of nuttery.

    It would seem a more likely calculation that the Democratic Party would rather deal with any possible scandals before Ms. Clinton formally declares, so that, once she is a candidate she can talk about political policy and not face continual scandal questions. (though she still will, and always has)
     
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  7. Major

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    This has got to be disappointing to our resident crazies insisting she is guilty and demanding she go to jail.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/15/trey-gowdy-hillary-emails_n_6872498.html


    WASHINGTON -- “We haven’t seen any evidence of a crime,” Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), the chair of the House Select Committee on Benghazi, said Sunday about Hillary Clinton’s private email use during her service as Secretary of State.

    Gowdy was speaking to "Fox News Sunday" days after Clinton responded to a New York Times article alleging that she “may have violated federal requirements” under federal records laws.

    Fox News’ Chris Wallace repeatedly asked Gowdy whether Clinton had broken any laws. The Benghazi committee chair declined each time to implicate Clinton.

    Asked again by Wallace if Clinton had broken rules put in place by the Obama administration, Gowdy said, “I’m going to have to let smart lawyers decide if she complied with the law or not.”

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    Even the crazies in Congress recognize that you can't convict someone of a crime without evidence and can't point to a specific statute that she's violated.
     
  8. bigtexxx

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    ^^

    Might want to wait to see how this plays out. We're in the early innings.

    Also -- as you well know, all that matters is the court of public opinion. Just ask Darren Wilson.
     
  9. Major

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    I've already said multiple times that more investigation should be done and more questions need to be answered. I have no problem with that, and if she's guilty of something, she's guilty and deserves to go down for it.

    My problem is with the morons that read something on some partisan website that says "she's guilty!", regurgitate it and state things like how she clearly violated the law, and then call everyone else idiots despite the fact that they can't actually point to anything specific.
     
  10. FV Santiago

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    It's the classic dirty Clinton defense of doing something wrong, but claiming that it's legal. Just like Bill Clinton only touched Monica's lips, so that wasn't sexual contact. It's so old and tired. She simply can't be an effective leader with her credibility so damaged from 30 years of skirting the law and being evasive.

    The emails themselves are a very serious national security risk, as chain of custody is a huge question mark, as is the server's security. It's one thing if it's a low level staffer -- this is the Secretary of State. She has access to very sensitive information. It's also yet another example of attempting to hide information from America. Her emails as Secretary of State are the public's information, not hers, so it's wrong for her to decide which ones she keeps. That is not a partisan position -- both sides of the aisle claim to be for transparency. The dirty Clintons have never promoted transparency, and will never do so.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Let's face it though, she doesn't exactly deserve the benefit of the doubt. "Clinton" is almost synonymous with corruption and scandal. It would be like if Snoop Dogg was accused of possession of mar1juana....sure we'd let the investigation play out, but we'd probably assume he was guilty because well, duh. Same goes for Hillary.
     
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    I wonder what this means for Jeb Bush who is guilty of the exact same thing but waited longer.
     
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    It probably means he shouldn't run for president either.
     
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    Gowdy has had all of the emails for months. He's got nothing but he'll try and stretch it out as long as possible to keep the crazies riled up.
     
  15. Dubious

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    I still don't think they would draft you Bobby, but you can dream.
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    Draft me? For what, the military? I've already been in the Army and no, they can't draft me.

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Yeah probably means any senior official shouldn't run right? We need to find someone naive and pure - who doesn't know how to be manipulative and take sides on any issue. Such a person would be fit for menial super vision task?
     
  18. bingsha10

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    Interesting defense. Everyone is a crook so who cares?
     
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  20. Dubious

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    yup, you want the allegations investigated and old news before the campaign.
    You don't want guilt by insinuation to be a talking point.
     

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