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Are we just going to ignore the fact that we still have no franchise QB?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by ChievousFTFace, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. Roc Paint

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    I like what the Texans are doing at the QB position.
     
  2. rockets13champs

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    How come we arent looking to trade up for mariota
     
  3. Nick

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    Because there are doubts as to whether a QB that had inflated numbers due to his college system can succeed in the NFL (on a team that isn't coached by Chip Kelly).

    Its the same concerns the NFL had with run and shoot QB's coming out of college in the early 90's.
     
  4. solid

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    Hopefully we have seen the last of Fitz. One of his "best" years was agonizing from a fan's standpoint, alternative bullets and wounded ducks.
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    Excited. I like both signings.
     
  6. HillBoy

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    With the news this morning that the Texans are signing Brian Hoyer, I suggest that you re-examine your snarkiness at QBs like Bridgewater. Sure, he's no Tom Brady but he's lightyears better than Brian Hoyer or Fitzpatrick. His major drawback is his size which I can understand disqualifies him in BoB's system. However, he has more upside than Hoyer, Keenum or Fitzpatrick. Ugh! The Texans will now have 4 jerseys at the QB position and still have no answers at that position especially if they bring in the guy would got beat out by a QB who was a total train wreck last year. If Mallet stinks and doesn't work out, then they are screwed.
     
  7. solid

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    OBrien had an overall impressive first year, and you get the feeling he is "building."
     
  8. Nick

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    You'll have to pry that single-game TD record from his cold/wounded-duck throwing hands!

    To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Fitz held that record for a while here...
     
  9. Nick

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    If last year proved anything is that BOB has more coaching "stones" than being given credit for... if he was still able to get this rag-tag bunch of QB's to a 9-7 record.

    Now, with a possibly easier schedule... along with more overall talent being brought in at the QB position, there's a good chance they improve on that.

    And sometimes, QB's just need the right system/team to have everything come together... look at "left for dead" Romo in your backyard as a prime example of that.
     
  10. conquistador#11

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    love that we signed mallet. May the football gods bless him with poise and intelligence for 12 out of the 16 games this upcoming season.
     
  11. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    I love BOB hedging his bets with Hoyer.
     
  12. HillBoy

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    WHOA!!! Did you just compare Mallet & Hoyer to Romo??? Is this the Twlight Zone??? More overall talent at the QB position??? In which reality is this remotely true? I mean, I like BoB but unless he's the reincarnation of Bill Walsh AND Dan Marino, there is no way you can convince me that Hoyer will amount to anything other than horse*****. If that was the case, then why not just keep Fitzpatrick - I mean, he's the suck that we know so why go out and get a whole new level of suck? Did Jim Crane just buy the Texans and move them to the AL West also?
     
  13. Nick

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    Lighten up, francis.

    Two years ago, all your cronies and neighbors were ready to trade Romo or just cut him outright... fact of the matter is, a new coach/system can do wonders for any player/QB/team that goes beyond simple "talent".

    Its hilarious to see all the southern Oklahomans do a complete 180 on Tony Romo after just one season...
     
  14. HillBoy

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    All my cronies and neighbors? Dude, I am about the furthest thing you can be from a Cowsheep. Besides, the folks up here are constantly chanting about how Romo is a "top ten QB" in the NFL so as to reinforce their conditioning. But even I recognize that Hoyer doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same zip code as Romo. Don't misunderstand me: Romo is a over-rated stat puppy with two (that's TWO count'em) playoff wins. But to try to rationalize this move by BoB as legitimate strains the limits of credibility. This is a guy who got beat out by Johnny Manziel who in turn crashed and burned at Cleveland and is on his way out there and he's the guy you want here? I mean if that's what they consider legitimate, then why not just bring in Vince "The Chosen One" Young? Might as well suck in an exciting way. Plus I hear that VY is an snappy dresser just like Dwight Howard.
     
  15. Nick

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    Mallet is likely the favorite... but Hoyer breeds competition. He actually beat out Manziel, but started sucking as the entire team started sucking (still 10-6 as a starter).

    And my overall point is that things in this league can change just that fast... just like Romo was left for dead before last season, but blossomed behind a stout revamped line and Linehan's tutelage.

    Hoyer likely improves in a more familiar BOB-led system... but by no means should he be handed the job.

    And in the end, what other solutions are you offering for Houston to do to "solve" the position right now? They're making the most of a situation that is almost impossible to "fix" without a little luck or good fortune.
     
  16. Ziggy

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    I like what Hoyer showed 2 years ago and it might open the door for Jordan Cameron but I still would rather just stick with Fitzpatrick as Mallet's backup.

    I get it though, we understand what Fitzpatrick's ceiling is so there's no reason to linger, but you definitely open up the real possibility of regressing when you turn Fitz loose.
     
  17. HillBoy

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    It's no secret that Romo's "improvement" occurred when the Cows decided to run the ball and not have him impersonate Peyton Manning but that's neither here nor there. The objective here is (was?) supposed to be building a playoff caliber team that can win the division. I just fail to see how picking up mediocre QBs out of trash dumpsters moves them toward that goal. Because they got the QB that the Jets marginally wanted and that Cleveland didn't want, that can be sold as progress? What really chaps me the most is that the Texans are making moves like this while Indy got Luck and the t*** are looking at getting Mariotta. Sheesh! If it wasn't for bad luck, Houston football fans would have no luck at all.
     
  18. The Real Shady

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    Fitz had his best season ever under BOB so I'm interested to see if he can also improve under BOB as well. It's still Mallett's job to lose though.
     
  19. Nick

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    Again, what specifically would you have them do right now? Acquiring/retaining two system-specific QB's that are well known by the Texans current coach, and both have a chance to thrive in this system.... or be no better than what they're replacing, which had them at 9-7 and a game out of the playoffs.

    But you'd rather have them be the Titans... who still have under contract their previous failed top 10 first round QB, and now you have them picking another one?

    The Texans ARE building towards being a playoff caliber team... but you can't just trade for an all-pro QB or presume you'd be drafting one with any first round pick that wasn't named Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck over the last 20 years.
     
  20. Nook

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    The Texans organization is a mess and is trying to get out of it. The problem is that the organization is simply uninspiring and lacks any real creativity, and that makes any substantial improvements hard to make. The GM is a joke, the owner is just "blah" and we don't know what BOB can do.

    As it is, the only one that finds anything interesting about the Texans are hardcore fans.
     

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