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Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Dec 30, 2014.

  1. MadMax

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    I like this explanation. You win post of the day.
     
  2. rocketpower2

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    There is no way that figure is right. $5MM for McCown and $3.5MM for Mallett makes no sense.
     
  3. Indaface

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    Really hate the Hoyer pickup...but as long as it's not a ridic contract i can live with it. Mallett needs competition, but ******* Hoyer was awful every Cleveland game I saw last year.

    That game vs the Jags was some of the worst QBing i saw the whole year last year.
     
  4. conquistador#11

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    let's hope so but it happens with the best coaches.
     
  5. HeWhoIsLunchbox

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    I agree with that.
     
  6. MadMax

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Texans deal with Brian Hoyer could be worth twice of Mallett's. 3 other teams interested in Hoyer as well. nothing final yet with his future</p>&mdash; Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/574935022899171329">March 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  7. Hey Now!

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    As well as Fitzpatrick played, relative to expectations, we all saw the offense look night-and-day different with Mallett under center. So my guess is Fitzpatrick was on the outs and they wanted a competent, system-knowledgeable back-up for Mallett. I haven't seen the deal yet - but I assume Hoyer inherits the, what? ~$3MM we save with Fitzpatrick release?
     
  8. Buck Turgidson

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    Agreed.
     
  9. MadMax

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    That makes sense to me.

    Hard to say what I think about the Hoyer deal until I know the numbers and how that affects the Texans going forward.
     
  10. rocketpower2

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    Wow what a deal for the Texans. $1.75MM guarantee in Year 1 and no guarantee in Year 2.

    Makes the Hoyer deal seem worthless if it is higher than Fitz' cap hit but whatever. This is really interesting
     
  11. Indaface

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    Mallett's deal looks great
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Release him RT <a href="https://twitter.com/jpilutti94">@jpilutti94</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet">@RapSheet</a> what will they do with Ryan Fitzpatrick?</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/574934054023208960">March 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Ryan Mallett's deal with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a> is a 2 year deal worth $7 million. Expecting Hoyer's to be bigger.</p>&mdash; Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/status/574934122159714305">March 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  13. Nick

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    No, not necessarily wrong... but BOB personally knows the strengths/limitations and ability of each QB to run "his" game-plans and feels otherwise.

    Again, I'd rather have my front-office and coaching staff be pro-active and encourage open competition, rather than just hand a job to a player finally having a non-awful season, due to "loyalty".
     
  14. Buck Turgidson

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    True, but I doubt his contract will be so onerous as to prevent them cutting/trading him after this season if a better option arises, ala Fitz.
     
  15. Hey Now!

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    Yeah, I really liked Fitz; he wasn't very good but seemed like a good dude. I just think he was ultimately a bad fit for this system - limited arm, wrong/slow reads, too quick to tuck and run.

    Hoyer provides insurance and keeps Mallett on his toes. Hopefully, we're all griping about a player that never sees the field.
     
  16. Mkieke

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    How much cap room would we now have, assuming 1) Fitzy is cut/traded and 2) Hoyer is signed at 2x that of Mallett? It would be ~$6 MM, correct? Not much, but perhaps enough to bring Wilfork on board.
     
  17. MadMax

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>As I reported yesterday, Texans have signed Ryan Mallett. Mallett left &quot;significant&quot; money on the table. Wanted to be back in Houston.</p>&mdash; Jayson Braddock (@JaysonBraddock) <a href="https://twitter.com/JaysonBraddock/status/574936481631875072">March 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  18. Nick

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    This is where you see players improve/regress depending on the system they're playing in.

    Mark Sanchez looked even worse his last year as a starter with the Jets... yet looks like a pro-bowler with Chip Kelly.

    And at no point during Hoyer's tenure as a a Browns starter (where he went 10-6, surprisingly) has he been deemed "damaged goods", or basically what Schaub became.
     
  19. Hey Now!

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    Yeah, my guess is they're essentially commiting to Hoyer as the back-up "long-term." They'll give Mallett 2015 with a handshake promise to rip his deal up and pay him if he runs with it. If not, Hoyer bridges the pivot to plan B.
     
  20. rocketpower2

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    Hoyer and Mallett both believe they are going to be the starter hahaha. Preseason should be interesting... but Mallett should be the guy no matter what.
     

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