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Are we just going to ignore the fact that we still have no franchise QB?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by ChievousFTFace, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, fair enough, I see where you are coming from now, there's no need to continue this discussion.
     
  2. ChievousFTFace

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    Wait... you're saying Teddy B is mediocre?
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    No, I'm saying that his ceiling is mediocre, he hasn't reached that yet.
     
  4. The Real Shady

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    Don't bother. He'll continue to say Teddy is mediocre as he's getting inducted into the Hall of Fame.
     
  5. Cannonball

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    You can't have a set plan. You just have to wait for the right opportunity and have the ability to recognize it when it comes along. You can't say "I'm going to draft a QB in Year X" because you don't know what the other factors (QBs available, draft position) will be.
     
  6. Hey Now!

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    First of all, it takes two to tango; Cousins was almost certainly not available and, frankly, thank goodness. He's trash.

    But even then, I would have preferred Mallett - he's been in the system and BOB has previously worked with him; I think he's going to be a perfectly acceptable starter.

    This type of "F it all; we need a QB at all costs" thinking is why bobby is on the warpath knocking down QBs throughout this forum. It's just not a smart approach at all. The Texans would be ABSOLUTE FOOLS to trade picks for any rookie QB not named Andrew Luck.

    You're confusing agression with stupidity. Trading for Cousins or Mariotta would both fall into the "stupid" category.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    Official proof that he's the new Vince Young, people suggesting he's a HOFer after his rookie season despite no evidence suggesting that would even be a possibility.
     
  8. ChievousFTFace

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    LOL I want what you're smoking. Averaged over 70% completion rate in his last 5 games after a slow start. He did this with a bottom 5 offensive line and a lower tier WR corp.

    He finished with a 64.4% completion rate. This is 3rd all time behind RG3 and Big Rape. Time and again he has proven to be one of the best throwers under pressure.

    Not to get off topic, because this thread isn't just about passing up on Bridgewater. It's about settling for mediocrity. Fitzpatrick was supposed to be a stopgap until we snagged a QB to build around. Looks like we've moved onto a longer term stopgap in Mallett. I do hope he proves me wrong.
     
  9. The Real Shady

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    Unitas, Montana, Peyton, Brady, and Bridgewater.
     
  10. ima_drummer2k

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    ****, here we go with the Bridgewater crap again...

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  11. Bobbythegreat

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    We just had a thread about Vince Young, we'll be dealing with Bridgewater people a decade from now when he's out of the league.
     
  12. ChievousFTFace

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    It worked when we traded for Schaub. He wasn't trash. Washington would have been better off to trade one of their QBs.

    You don't have to sell me on Mallett. We know he's a pocket passer with an inaccurate laser beam arm. Time will tell if he can succeed with the weapons we provide for him. Hopefully we get him a speedy WR2, sure handed slot receiver and an upper to mid-tier TE.

    Looking back at Rick Smith's drafting history, he is horrible outside of the 1st round.

    Looking at the last two draft classes alone:

    2nd Round: Swearinger and XSF... Busteroni x 2
    3rd Round: Brennan Williams, Sam Montgomery, C.J. Fedoramilady, Nix... Busteroni x 4

    If Mariota is truly top 5 worthy, I would be ecstatic if we traded a few picks to nab our guy. That being said, if there are that many red flags... then you obviously don't do a deal.
     
  13. Hey Now!

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    Not every back-up is Matt Schaub. Cousins has looked terrible when he's had a chance to play, and Washington was not going to deal him with RG3 coming off of a serious injury.

    BOB is in charge of personnel; prior, it was Kubiak. Smith's role is rounding up players who meet the coaches' preferences.

    Let me stop you.. draft "worthiness" isn't really relevant. Is he capable of translating his game to the NFL - that's the one and only concern. And Mariotta, talented as he very obviously was in college, is a giant question mark in that regard; a very possible grade-A system QB.

    You don't deal picks for anything less than a for-sure thing.

    You obviously have to have a good QB to win consistently. But you can't ignore your other holes by throwing everything up against the wall trying to find one. Mallett gets a year while they continue to build a great team elsewhere.
     
  14. ChievousFTFace

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    I would say this is true outside of the QB position. If you like a guy, you should be willing to give up an extra 2nd or 3rd to get him. If you really like the guy, you give up a 1st. I'm not saying RG3 trade up silliness.

    This is why we pay scouts. If they are consistently wrong, then they should get canned. We got zero production out of our draft class last year outside of Blue, Prosch and Hal. It was actually nice to see production out of 6th and 7th rounders.

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    F that... Threads always get off topic. Lol..

    Bridgewater wasn't the only quarterback in that draft and Carr looked darn good for a rookie last season on a worst team and coaching staff than what Bridgewater had.... And the Texans wouldn't have had to trade up to get him. Why are you 'just' bringing up Bridgewater and not Carr...?
     
  16. ChievousFTFace

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    You're right! We dun goof'd on Carr too.
     
  17. napalm06

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    That escalated quickly.
     
  18. Remii

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    With that said... Practically all of the rookie quarterbacks that played last year showed potential of being good serviceable quarterbacks except for Johnny :(

    And Savage looked a lot better with the little regular season time he got compared to what he looked like during his pre-season playing time. I think we should wait to see what that kid does before we start crying about the quarterbacks we didn't draft.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    I'm impressed, I never expect you to be the voice of reason around here but that's a super solid comment.
     
  20. juanm34

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    Best hope is landing a flaco type QB. :/
     

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