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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by rimrocker, Mar 6, 2015.

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  1. rimrocker

    rimrocker Member

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    179 years ago.

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  2. rocketsjudoka

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    REMEMBER THE ALAMO!

    The movie overall was meh but I really loved this scene.
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    No idea if something like this actually occurred or not but really captures the spirit of defiance in the face of death.
     
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    That was actually a decent rendition in my opinion. Captured the fact that Davey Crockett didn't come to Texas to fight, believing the fight was over. Captured some of the issues Houston had to deal with regarding whether or not to reinforce the Alamo, etc.
     
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    A day both sad and uplifting. A day that was avenged at San Jacinto.
     
  5. Yonkers

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    Glad you posted or I would not have remembered the Alamo.
     
  6. dragician

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    Today will be remembered as the day that Denver Nuggets beat Spurs by 20 points.
     
  7. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    We thank you for your service. :)
     
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    Taking my boys to the San Jacinto Monument/Battleship Texas next week.

    A rite of passage for any true Texan.
     
  9. Dairy Ashford

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    I'd add seeing all five Alamo movies in school to that one. I still think it was technically insubordinate and unnecessary; although the win at San Jacinto and having the Mexican head of state travel with his troops were enough of a long-shot to not be affected by it.
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    I liked how the movie captured the complexity of the situation and wasn't just mythologizing the story. I also liked Billy Bob Thornton's Crockett. Overall though I still didn't think it was that great of a movie in terms of gripping battle scenes or really invested in characters beyond Crockett.
     
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    that's mean -- :)
     
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    It was nothing. It was everything. ;-)-
     
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  14. jo mama

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    i really liked that movie and found it to be pretty historically accurate (especially by hollywood standards). that particular scene was certainly a dramatization, but crockett was a fiddle player and there was also a bagpipe player in the alamo...they would jam together and supposedly played along to the mexican bands too.

    the alamo was such a stupid, pointless waste of life though...should have never happened. the idea that the alamo was strategically important is B.S. the idea that it gave time for houston to mobilize the volunteers and train them is B.S. houstons response to travis' pleas for help were that they were "damned lies" and people playing politics. when he finally decided to go to relieve the alamo he took 5 days to make a 2 day trip...spent a couple days on the colorado river getting drunk and only made it to gonzales after it was all over.

    most of the longtime colonists knew better and stayed the f*** out of there...many of the people who died in the alamo had only been in texas a short time (weeks/months)...crockett, for example, only got to texas in january.

    the tables had been turned only 3 months before...roughly 600 rebels layed siege to san antonio with about 1000 mexicans inside it for a month...they stormed the town and took in 3 or 4 days...the notion that they could then hold it with under 200 against an army of thousands was the height of stupidity, arrogance and contempt for their foe (racism certainly played a factor there too).

    BBT is so good in that movie that i forget it is him. ron howard was the original director and wanted to make a really violet & bloody version that would have been similar to saving private ryan. it would have been rated R though and this was a disney movie...so he quit and they brought in that other dude.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/2002/09/19/ron-howard-tells-real-alamo-story/

     
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    Not surprising that Disney sucked a lot of the life out of what could've been a great movie. I don't think necessarily having more blood in the movie would've made it better but I did feel the battle scenes were kind of flat.

    I liked that they did address the aftermath of the Alamo with Houston's retreat and finally the battle at San Jacinto but it seemed a bit rushed for me. Unfortunately I can see why budget and time constraints would've limited spending more time on that part of the struggle for Texas Indepdendence.
     
  16. hairyme

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    Damn.

    I totally forgot to celebrate the day a band of uneducated frontiersmen bravely sacrificed their lives for the honorable cause of keeping their slaves and not paying rent to their Mexican overlords!

    Perhaps, one day, a century or two from now, people will think back fondly to when Russians infiltrated Ukrainian regions and fought to separate itself from the country! Or perhaps, when Islamic State brought its backwards customs and religiously motivated disregard for ruling governments to the Middle East!
     
  17. Dairy Ashford

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    Did you forget the part where every pre-industrial civilization on the planet incorporated slavery into their economic and societal models, bro?
     
  18. hairyme

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    Whoops, my bad!

    Thanks pouhe for reminding me of the time-honored tradition of fighting against human advancement and societal progression...?
     
  19. napalm06

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    You raise some valid points, but.... I fixed your post with an opposite perspective.

    Perspectives are fun!
     
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    Let me guess...you're a college sophomore?
     

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