Perhaps you can divide 250 by 30 and come up with a better number. And nobody is questioning your bbq. You clearly show 0 on a consistent basis!!
It made no difference except that we are undefeated with Jones as a starter!! Balcoholic said jones is tyler hansborough - no need to search it, I sigged it last year. And yet he still claims he isnt wrong (despite trying to subtly shift his position every week....)
Screw your opinion about how a championship should look like. Nobody said Terrence was supposed to be the second or third option after Dwight went down. He is proving that he can be the 3rd option when needed. Building a championship is up to Morey and folks and they have not figured it all out yet in 7 years. What makes you the 'perfect expert' on this?
A starter and a difference maker are different things, Hinkie touched on what a difference maker is, it's a guy in the 96th percentile (the guy with the beard), the 90th percentile (the guy that laughs all the time, if he can even get back to 90%), and a guy in the 79th percentile. No Jones isn't that third guy (could he be? maybe?!?), and neither is Parsons, but that doesn't mean they can't start, just that they currently aren't good enough to be the 3rd best player on a title team.
Check my sig. Wrong. Also, how is he our 4th best big? He ranks first amongst our bigs defensively this year. And opens up the offence far more than Motie. That is no slur on DMo, it is a credit to our bigs rotation. The fact you cant see it says it all about you.
A serious question - why do you or others respond to him? This is someone who demonstrably has been proven wrong on many occasions, refuses to acknowledge his own statements (even when they are in print 2 pages prior), insults other posters, and seems to actually have pride in his own childish monikers ("T _ones" is roughly as mature as it is creative). You can point out his errors, cite his own statements back to him, observe the reality that nothing he predicted actually came to pass, and even point out that the GM of the team does not agree with the actions that he predicts that GM will take ... it doesn't matter because you cannot change the opinion of someone whose entire ego is invested in a righteous sense of superiority. It is like arguing with Charles Barkley about analytics, only if Charles Barkley's only source of attention and relevance was being talked about on a random internet message board. Don't give him any more attention than you would an actual alcoholic screaming doomsday sermons on a street corner.
Jones as a reserve this year: 7.3ppg 4.4rpg 1.1apg There are only 221 players who average more ppg Of those 225, only 115 average more than 4.4 rpg. Of those 115, only 93 average more than 1.1 apg. Of course, why should we consider these 8 games when the other 7 games make our argument so much better.
+1 jopatmc has no spine He has bet on something before and when he lost he still didn't honor his own bet This is the kind of scum you guys are wasting your time and effort responding to http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=7245067&postcount=383
The most important thing about Jones, that I see is that he is no quitter. His shot blocking in particular has been very impressive, right all the way out on the perimeter. He took on a huge center in DeAndre Jordan who is much taller and bigger than him, and never backed down. He has a long way to go, if he continues to work hard and believe in himself, he will become a solid and consistent 4 in the league.
BBH you put it great effort in your posts but folks here are just tired mostly of how you come off as though you know something more than other do or are more "informed" than others are when it's just simply your opinion just like everyone else's. This is underscored by the fact that though we are all limited in knowing how the rockets GM thinks and evaluates talent....the little information we do have is contradictory to your own opinion. Which is fine you can have your own opinion about jones and argue till high heaven with facts and stats but don't try to suggest it's what the rockets organizarion is thinking when you're just as clueless as the rest of us.
That's why you have to factor in last season instead the few starts this season. Also look at his progression from his rookie season WinkFan and you would see he has improved each year. That's a fact.
I did say that but there was a caveat. That being the other bigs stayed healthy. If Dwight were healthy, Terrence would be getting spot, garbage minutes.
TJones is a stud. He makes us click offensively and defensively. He's hard to defend because of his intangibles. It's almost as if we forget he's on the court until he scores effortlessly.
Here is an idea. Lets just look at some of his skills from last season. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/InJ0KICZPqs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> There are a myriad of skills in that video, but maybe you only consider jump shooting a skill. The ability to take you man off of the dribble 20+ feet from the basket and brake his ankles with a lethal cross over or through the legs and behind the back dribble is not something that many power forwards are capable of. He is exceptionally skilled at a great many things, just not jump shooting. He has had huge games against some of the best Power Forwards in the games. That does not equal garbage time scoring. You are so biased you don't realize you are claiming players like Tim Duncan are garbage when you claim TJones is a garbage player.
Projects out to be an all-star by whose projections? Yours? Morey's? I doubt very seriously that Morey projects Terrence to be a future all-star. However I can understand you thinking that. But if so, you'd better go study the history of all-star power forwards and look at their career arcs. Terrence is NOT on that career arc. This is non-sensical. You are admitting he tried to trade Terrence. Which he did. Even last season while Terrence was starting beside Dwight...Morey tried to trade him. But, and we agree here, Morey couldn't get value for him. Value means a future pick or a desirable player. Morey tried to peddle him to Ainge. Ainge wouldn't even offer anything at all for him. That tells you what his asset value is. Ed Davis has more asset value than Terrence currently. It is cheap when you simply say "you're wrong about Terrence" and offer no explanation. If we're going to point to other threads than look at the totality of my posting about Terrence. I've been very fair in giving Terrence credit for everything positive he has done on the court. He didn't play the first, what, 40 games? And we missed him how much? Plug DMo in and win, win, win. Terrence IS NOT critical to our success. Especially our playoff success. That's your opinion and you're welcome to it. But the truth is he went out and we didn't even miss a beat. And here's the difference between you and others and myself. I think we've got a young player who is good. But I think there's 250 other good players in the NBA. Every player in this league, save for possibly 10 to 20 bring something to the table. They've all got an elite skill or two. You and others think he's a future All-Star. I think he's a great role player off the bench when he can play with a bunch of high energy players who turn the opponent over and get out and run where he can finish. I do not think he's a good half-court player. I do not think he's a good playoff player. I think he becomes a hindrance in playoff series because his inability to shoot the ball from anywhere on the floor comes into play and hurts us more than his finishing helps us. And also because he simply isn't big or long enough to defend effectively against the majority of WC teams that play 2 big bigs in their lineups together. I think his great efficiency is derived from playing alongside Harden and Howard/DMo and cleaning up the garbage at the rim. You think he's this great player that is so smart that he's highly efficient of his own nature. I do not see All-Star in his future. You think he's a future All-Star. You think he's irreplaceable except for a clear upgrade. I think Ed Davis (and others) on a minimum salary contract could replace Terrence's contributions quite easily. We simply value him difference and project his ceiling differently. When Terrence becomes an All-Star you can tell me I'm wrong. Until then you're doing the same thing you're accusing me of doing.....just guessing.
Name the skills outside of jump shooting that you think Terrence Jones is laking in on the offensive end.
