Chuck Hayes was an undersized PF who played center. He would be a great defensive 4 with a real big man in the middle.
No doubt. He's the type of guy you would want guarding a guy like Aldridge while Dwight patrols the middle.
Yeah right, and somehow Chuck Hayes did not get a max contract from the Rockets and moved to the next team - the Kings. Dwight almost never took any charges, because he is a shoot blocker, a great rebounder, his presence alone will change the way of the opponents going to the basket. Your opponents will not give you any respect if your center would like to look for charges. This is not to take a shoot at Chuck Hayes, but if your team's starting center will be Chuck Hayes - just for the defense, you are having a real problem.
I think Dwight tried to take charges earlier in his career to find that they just about called it a blocking foul every time.
who cares if your opponents give you respect. if you're able to legitimately take charges that's good defense. and chuck hayes earned himself a nice contract for someone that can't do anything but take charges. I'd say that was a success for him.
I rather have a blocking foul than a shooting foul, but I would much rather have a shot blocking presence than a positional defender to anchor the team D.
Chuck Hayes could do a lot more on defense than take charges. You put him on a scoring PF, and that guy will have to settle from jumpers in the post. It was very difficult to back him down or get around him.
yes but being able to take charges is part of what got him that nice contract initially, which tied into him being able to play solid defense despite being 6'7 playing against bigs.
In the 2 season Chuck started for the Rockets, he took 37 and 28 charges... and blocked 43 and 49 shots. So must have been his shot blocking that got him that huge contract.
What matters is if people are scoring easily on players. Opponent FG% and opponent FG differential are the most important. You could have literally 0 blocks and 0 drawn charges but if you were holding your opponents to 10% off of their average FG% in the post (with a sufficient sample per game), you are a good post defender. Now DMo's numbers have slipped a little bit since he's been playing out of position at center but he's still holding opponents to -6.8% of their average within 6 feet of the rim and is still top 10 in the league at the rim among players that defend at least 5 attempts at the rim per game and have played at least 40 games. Also surprisingly enough, Jones' numbers are sick and if he can keep them up over enough games to get over the "small sample size" issue then he'll be very deserving of praise for his improvement there.
I think I read somewhere that Cousins is top 5 in charges AND top 5 in shot blocking. You can be a big man and take charges.
if you don't think being able to take charges on a consistent basis is part of good defense especially for players that are not shot blockers and are undersized then you don't really understand what defense really is.
Here's another suprise. Josh Smith defensive percentage at the rim with Detroit 47.6%. With Houston 53%.
That is pretty interesting. I wonder what might have caused that drop once he got to Houston. He has been having to play out of position at the 5 a bit and like pretty much any PF he's not really equipped to do that. I'd have to have a lot more numbers to try and break that down better.
