Remember the time when TJones was a trade nobrainer

DMo has a more advanced game but TJones is having more impact right now

 

Wasn't it already established that anyone is a trade no-brainer except Harden?(and some people will include Howard, but that's a different topic)

I'm surprised this thread is still open for people to bicker about, really, topics that are of no consequence.

 

You were saying TRob, yes?

 

Yeah my bad dude, I realized after submitting that it probably wouldn't read the way I was intending. I can totally understand your reaction.

Anyways, TJ is young and inconsistent. DMo is a little older, but also young and inconsistent. They have different strengths and weaknesses which have been beaten to death over and over. They actually compliment one another. If they can learn to successfully play together, we might have something with Dwight being out. I just get frustrated by people who knock one for a bad game and give the other a pass when they play bad. There is no consistency and it comes across as bias or being disingenuous when you can't say anything positive about a guy when he plays well and are ready to come guns blazing when he doesn't, but show up with a handful of excuses when the one you like plays crappy. Lots of Jones fans simply do not care for DMo and vice versa and we have these comments from either side that aren't really grounded in factual information far too often. Maybe at the heart of it all is that we all realize that eventually one of them will be traded. Who knows what Morey might do though? He could end up trading them both.

 

I believe 'we' all want TJo to do well. The question is how well can he do?

I, for one, am starting to question my ingrained feelings of a low ceiling for the fella. All Star? Nah. But quality rotation guy? Hmm, maybe.

 

Who the hell wanted to trade Jones last week?

 

I will never for the life of me understand why some people here hate on TJones so much and want him gone. He's a good young PF, he's developing nicely before our eyes. His defense is improved this season, he's our most explosive PF, runs the court very well, can handle the rock, and can occasionally hit a three.

Just because he can't stop LMA, Griffin, and other elite PF's in this league doesn't mean anything except that he is not an elite PF. Jones can be a starter or key bench player for a championship team, we need to rely on good overall team defense to defend the LMA's of the league.

I would not be surprised to see him starting with Howard back.

 

Can we get some links on this?

 

jpotmac3 doesn't have links... just throws out stuff and hopes we all buy it...

 

Well....info about failed trades and such some times goes public after some time passes, but most often does not. And that applies especially to someone like Morrey. However all the national guys were saying Morrey made offers for Dragic and Houston along with Boston and Miami were the three most serious. Cyber said that Dmo was deemed untouchable at the time so the logical step is that the serious offer Morrey made included Jones.
I have no idea if Morrey went after Knight. But I am 100% certain that if it happened the Bucks would say no (there is Jabari). The Suns did go after Knight and offered Dragic straight up and the answer was no. The head of analytical department of the Bucks pretty much said that their target all along was MCW and it was up to the Suns to make up a package to send him to Mil.

All this is history and doesn't matter now. What should matter is that Jones remains healthy develops and plays well......and let's see what happens in the summer.
Because Houston is a contender with limited time to develop rookies and now with the Nop pick can pull of a good draft day trade. And that trade package will most likely imo involve one of Jones or Dmo. Paying both of them in the summer of 2016 while trying to go after Durant? With other 29 teams with a LOT of money trying to steal talent? Morrey won't do that mistake.imo.

 

100% certain based off of what. Again you don't know who Morey was shopping around. Especially with Dwight being out. Again if it didn't come on the horses mouth then it's a good chance it wasn't factual.

 

Nah - he is saying 100% certain that if Jones was offered to the Bucks they would say 'no, we have Jabari'.
I dunno if anyone can be 100% certain that they would have said 'no', if offered - certainly he wouldn't be replacing Jabari, but a big in the rotation? A piece coming in which also brings MCW?
But, like you say, we have no idea if he was offered anywhere (let alone if Morey was laughed at)

 

Yeah, I was laughing at people talking about trading Jones to the Suns for Dragic. Who was going to sign with another team in the off season. Jones just goes to prove how much he is needed while Dwight gets his knee better. On the other hand, Dmo has to work on his rebounding, he is 7 foot and only had 3 rebounds? That's a head shaker.

 

That's right I'm talking only about the case he was offered for Knight and in that case MCW wouldn't be coming back since MCW needed a pick like the LA pick (otherwise the Suns would have traded their own lottery pick). And I'm 100% certain the Bucks wouldn't be interested because I know as a fan of that team all the players and there is a huge glut in PF. There is a big chance BOTH the young stars of the team play the same position... But that's not here nor there.

 

That's the thing. Jones's defense was so bad against Portland that first we tried to hide him on Lopez, then hide him on the bench.

We need a PF to be able to guard someone like LMA, so Dwight can be free to protect the rim.

 

No that's not logical at all. "DMo is untouchable; therefore someone else must be touchable." That makes no sense in itself.

"And the person who is touchable must be Terrence Jones." That also is totally unfounded. Your logic has two flaws, not one.

I say the first and only logical step was Clint Capella.

29 games of Dragic v. 1.5 years of Terrence Jones?

That's the best you got: your logic v. my logic? Secrets you cannot confirm and no links?

 

If you think that rookie D-league "star" Clint Capella is the only logical answer to a trade for Goran Dragic then You have no idea of the trade value of any players. Plain ridiculous.

 

True but it's up to the coach to make defensive adjustments. Guarding LMA one on one was a big time mistake. A quick hard double , forcing LMA to pass the ball probably would have slowed him down. The Spurs team defense was the key in stopping LMA and the Blazers.

 

Double team LMA... with the 3 point shooting the Blazers have. Splitter guarded LMA one on one a ton.

 

You're joking right?