True or False statement regarding Christians and Muslims in the United States

As I don't consider either to be an imminent threat to the US, I voted False.

 

Yup.. 'In God we trust'...

And the Pledge Of Allegiance was changed in 1954 to include 'One nation under God'...

But the only thing people truly worship is the almighty dollar.

You fail to understand that leaders use the fear of their constituents to rule them.

 

This is a bit old but here is some PEW data:
http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf

My personal contact with Muslims are limited and is also work and academic related. Mostly from Pakistan. They are professional, religious and great folks. They are friendly yet very driven individuals and that might be exactly because as you said, top tiers immigrate here for work and education.

 

Last times the term "imminent threat" popped up in the media, they were about torture or government sanctioned murder against a US citizen.

Connotations for the word "imminent" usually means "immediate" "about to happen" and/or "overhanging". "Immediate" would be the better fit, but they are not interchangeable in proper usage.

You're using the word wrong.

I agree with your point, and it's another example of how people generally misevaluate known risks with unknown fears. It's an exploited principle in political science that gets politicians to grandstand and win an issue, or waste money in popular policies that have bad bang for the buck.

We don't know or understand Islam enough and how it equates with American living. Not much has been promoted towards cultural equivalence, so the identity is mostly held captive by the media and what happens in the news.

The idea of a modern, yet Sharia driven government is exotic, alien, and possibly terrifying, while the notion of a modern, Christian driven "papal state" is a known quantity that's dismissed and loathed as backwards and archaic.

I doubt either idea holds much credibility as a "threat" or "fear" in the US. However, many Americans do fear Islamic activism over Christian activism. Last 30 years in the US, "Christian crazy" has appeared to be less violent and threatening than "Muslim crazy".

So if you're to pull in charged words like "imminent threat" that plays into it.

How do American Muslims prove they're not Muslim Crazy to the elected Christian Crazy politician and its constituents?

By swearing fealty and eternal loyalty of course!

 

I fully agree.

I see complacency towards the Patriot Act and NSA wiretaps as a greater threat than Jesus billboards on the side of the interstate, or religious nuttery (which despite its annoying presence has been declining rapidly in effect over the years).

 

Good thread and something I haven't thought about it.

American Muslims mind their own business for the most part.

 

Hey look you brought your schtick to the D&D bc no moar hang out for you LOL

 

Patriot Act and NSA wiretaps sound crazy, but really, for most folks, it have zero affect. I understand the arguments of "it too much info for government to have". But realistically, it's null.

Religious driven rules and laws OTH does have an impact on my life, from what kind of education my kids get through public school to whether or not I get to be naked in my driveway. But relative to what the rest of the world face, especially in countries with religion based laws and rules, I'm not complaining.

 

It's not null to journalists and whistleblowers who risk their lives and reputations to inform the public of what the government and companies do.

And yes, that government gathered information is shared with corporations and other nations, with whom they share is at their discretion.

We can feel lazy and carefree because there are people who aren't and take enough issue to it to do something about it.

 

I vote neither, seriously, neither is any threat to democracy. In fact if democracy is people voting then they both probably get people voting.

The biggest threat to US democracy is that it doesn't matter who you vote for.
You only have two choices if that. They can't be much outside the old boy network of either party. They can't do anything but quote the party talking points, can't pass any legislation that means anything.

Candidates who work for 'big money' not large numbers of people are your only choice, so as a person, why bother to sanctify the game

In the near future people will probably just give up on democracy altogether. I think Citizens United was the tipping point.

 

Hypocrites never see the hypocrisy in their actions. Pot vs Kettle debate.

According to whom

The greatest threat to American citizens are homegrown terrorists and the government itself.

 

i think a 1/4 of the ppl on here are social conservatives because they view the moslems as the greatest immediate threat. they wouldn't like your question because christian sharia law is better in their eyes than islam sharia law. im not a social and christian conservative anymore. its been a rough winter for me because ive never been so far away from family, friends and hometown in my beliefs as i am today.

 

My question is what threat do you see from Christian theocracy? All that has been mentioned was abortion. While Christians hold dearly onto abortion, this isn't necessarily a religious belief.

Sharia Law on the other hand is a set of beliefs founded on religion itself.

 

Ummm... well, I don't know what "schtick" you're talking about, but your argument seems 'ad hominem' to me.

Care to address the True or False statement in the opening statement?

 

No.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jul/29/poll-nsa-surveillance-privacy-pew

 

I voted 'False' because I found the chances of either being an imminent threat to American democracy(?) so small that I could not distinguish one from the other. Therefore I could not find one to be greater than the other nor one to be lesser than the other. Nor could I find both to be equal to each other. Nor could I determine if the chances were greater than or equal to zero.