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[ClutchFans] Podcast: Is Goran Dragic to Houston suddenly possible?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Feb 16, 2015.

  1. saleem

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    Terry is getting tired, because of his age. Bev is struggling big time. Let's see if Canaan shows something to the coaching staff to earn some minutes.
     
  2. thevirus

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    Whatever who,just come...
     
  3. morpheus133

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    If he doesn't come here, I'd rather he go to the Lakers. Might make them good enough to lose their lottery pick this year, and if they pay a max contract to Dragic on that team, they aren't likely to be a contender in the next 2-3 years. He is good, but he isn't likely to be the best player on a contender and isn't likely to ever be an all star in the west. He is in his prime now, but he isn't exactly a young and upcoming PG considering he will be 29 this May. Paying max money to Dragic for a rebuilding team guarantees they will be just good enough to not get a good draft pick every year, and not likely to be good enough to be real contenders.
     
  4. mightybosstone

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    The Lakers aren't likely to contend in the next 2-3 years anyway. But if they get Dragic, they're more likely to attract another free agent in the offseason or next offseason. I'd much rather see him go the East where Houston wouldn't have to worry about whatever team got him. That conference needs all the talent it can get.
     
  5. mightybosstone

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    I'm not against the idea. I just don't see it happening. But if Beverley and Terry struggle and the Rockets start losing games, maybe McHale will tweak the rotations and give Canaan a shot. I'm just hoping it doesn't come to that.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    Honestly Morey could help the team by trading Terry for a future 2nd round pick and forcing McHale to play Canaan.

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  7. glimmertwins

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    ...this Dragic saga is tiring. Let him go. If he really only wants to go to Miami, NYK, or LA Lakers then he is an absolute fool who cares more about being "the man" then winning. We don't have time for that kind of selfishness.

    I'm so sick of seeing him openly bash his team, these leaked media reports, etc that if we were to still trade for him today, I would be kind of disappointed even though he COULD be the missing piece.
     
  8. clutz

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>☑️ Money
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    This is the most stereotypical NBA trade request ever and it's from GORAN DRAGIC <a href="http://t.co/bwYfVEbm3y">http://t.co/bwYfVEbm3y</a></p>&mdash; SB Nation (@SBNation) <a href="https://twitter.com/SBNation/status/568421815791394817">February 19, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  9. RockingRox

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Yahoo Sources: With Goran Dragic still insisting he wouldn't re-sign, Sacramento is increasingly hesitant on pursuing deal with Phoenix.</p>&mdash; Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/568418378924343296">February 19, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

    If the Rockets are still persuing Dragic, even if it's a 4 months rental, then the situation is getting better by the hours.

    First, the Dragic camp let the Suns know that he wouldn't re-sign, effectively forcing the Suns to trade him before today and dropping the Suns bargaining leverage.

    At the mean time, the Suns got a list with a few teams Dragic wants to go to, only that none of them has enough chip for a trade. That means when they talks with teams like Rockets and the Kings not on the list, these teams gain more leverage to lower the price by citing risk of losing Dragic by summer.

    Now, with the Kings fading out due to risk, the Rockets get more leverage due to reduced competition for Dragic.

    Very interesting indeed. It looked like Dragic's camp were not all that professional yesterday with the late request, list, interview etc. In the end it will benefit everybody, Dragic included, except the Suns.
     
  10. glimmertwins

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    Fixed this for you.


    Terry will be fairly valuable to us in the playoffs. I agree that Canaan's development has suffered with Terry on board, but that's on McHale for not grooming him and planning ahead. Terry already knows how to play basketball at a high level and when the playoffs start, we need as many guys as we can like that but Canaan will never be that guy if he doesn't get any sort of regular play...
     
  11. SF3isBack!!

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    I think we should be prepared for no trade. Teams seem very cautious this year and Dragic really wants to screw over Phoenix as much as possible. Houston could ask for a rental. It would make sense if Bev were included in a deal like that. But it's unlikely.
     
  12. Torn n Frayed

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    Nailed it.
     
  13. SF3isBack!!

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    The way he has talked about his team has lowered his value for me. Not many teams he will got to and be the first option, that includes the Knicks and Heat. Kobe said he's trying to come back if so that won't even be the Lakers until after he is 30.
     
  14. SF3isBack!!

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    Yeah umm DO NOT WANT.
     
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    Dragic ain't no different than any other player chasing the money. His own camp put that list out there. So in other words, he had to approve it. But let him and his inflated ego go to LA or NY where the media will pick him apart after every game he doesn't put up superstar numbers. You wanna be a superstar Dragic, well there are a few perks that come with that tag
     
  16. zeeshan2

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    Kings are out:

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Report: With news he wouldn’t re-sign there Sacramento backs out of Goran Dragic chase <a href="http://t.co/lsLk0d9Q3g">http://t.co/lsLk0d9Q3g</a></p>&mdash; Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/568436762583805953">February 19, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  17. Clutch

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    It seems like the Rockets are playing this smartly, knowing Goran wants the max and prefers another destination where he's the only ballhandler. I'd guess they are making a fairly low offer and sticking to it.

    It's a real shame because if Goran wanted to be here, he'd be a huge boost and the Rockets would have the pieces to make a deal.

    Morey probably knows it would be a rental and has priced accordingly.
     
  18. morpheus133

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    Exactly, not being on Dragic's list can make what we have to give up less than it would be otherwise. Nobody can use the Rockets as leverage, and the Rockets can say they can't give any more because he is just a rental.

    Who knows if Dragic will really not sign. I'm sure he thinks that now, but things change. If Dragic flames out here or can't co-exist with Harden after the rental then the Rockets wouldn't want to offer him a max contract anyway. If he doesn't give his best effort he is hurting his own free agency this summer. And if he wins big, then maybe he changes his mind about how he would fit in here.
     
  19. SF3isBack!!

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    This is true but haven't they already stated they want two first round picks and Miami has already offered two first round picks so....
     
  20. HeyDude

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    Just dont see Dragic's perspective here. Even Curry needs Thompson. And Thompson gets more than enough love. Just like Dragic would get with Harden....Going to Lakers / Heat doesn't do anything for his image.
     

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