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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Two Sandwiches, Jul 11, 2014.

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  1. khanhdum

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    when have the Spurs gone for a potentially max player?
     
  2. malakas

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    But of course. First of all 1) news of the rejection of teh cap smoothing hadn't come out when Rondo was traded making his demand for max harder to accept
    2) Dragic can play up to SF making him fit in most team
    3) Rondo had many serious injuries and hadn't shown a lot in the last years. Plus his shooting was...historically bad. Not many teams can fit Rondo in their system-
    4) Rondo is a SOB who is weird and elitist and a diva and would outright reject before hand any small market team or any team that he didn't like. Dragic words give equal hope to Charlotte AND LA AND GSW. (random examplees) All the teams small or big as long as they pay.
     
  3. Aruba77

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    I'm hoping Pels pick gets it done. Not worth giving up Jones or dmo for 20 games of Dragic.

    Wish Jones, the Pel's pick, and Capella could net us a Dragic type player on a longer term contract.
     
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  4. malakas

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    lol I'm sorry but you dn't unerstand. Kawhi is a RFA right now by design.
    The Spurs WILL buy this summer.
    But it's my opinion that they won't go after Dragic. No. Marc Gasol or LMA or Millsap. One of those.
     
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    Goran does not want to play SF. And for good reason. He SUCKS at it. He can't defend 3's in this league. So the whole idea of him moving to another team and them playing him at the 3 is preposterous.

    On top of that the Spurs have Kawhi. They have no need to play a point guard at the 3-spot. And the Rockets have Harden. Harden can and does play the 3 when needed.

    Goran playing the 3 is not a selling point. It's a negative.
     
  6. Roc Paint

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    You didn't just save my life, brown eyes, you made my life worth saving. :)
     
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    Yes, but they're not gonna resign Kawhi at a bargain. If Parsons got 15 mil/yr, there's no way the Final MVP from last year won't get at least that much from someone. And Duncan and Ginobili's deals are up as well. They may come back at a discount, but not for the veteran's minimum. Plus there's Danny Green who needs to be resigned or replaced.

    The problem with Gasol, Aldridge, and Millsap is that if Duncan returns and the Spurs can't find a taker for either Splitter or Diaw(they make a combined 15.5 mil next year), where would any of those guys get minutes? And could they even afford them in the first place?
     
  8. malakas

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    Who talked about the Spurs? You brought up the Spurs.
    The fact that he can play SF in spot minutes is a bonus. He may suck in the West but he will be just fine playing some minutes with the right matchup in the East.
    This makes it a selling point and not a negative for any team regardless of what they have already. He gives coaches more options with lineups.
     
  9. count_dough-ku

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    Jason Kidd in 2003. Lucky for San Antonio, he turned them down. They kept Parker who became a better(and less expensive) point guard once Kidd's knees started to wear down.
     
  10. malakas

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    aha. He will get his max and will be one of the few deserving. But he will get it after the Spurs have added their FA.
    Duncan will be 39(?) next season. I'm sure if they can land their number one target : Marc Gasol they will work something out with Duncan.

    They are the only team with a minuscule chance to pry Gasol away from Memphis. Like about 2%?
     
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    I brought up the Spurs simply to illustrate to you that there are teams that could put together a decent stash of assets and trade for Goran who wouldn't have been interested in Rondo. Rondo doesn't fit San Antonio's culture and he is exclusively a point guard. He's worthless off the ball. Goran isn't like that. Goran has varied game. He is a great playmaker on the ball and he's a great spot-up shooter and floor spreader. Goran's game is a perfect fit for the Spurs system. And their championship window is open NOW and they could be looking to make a championship move and if so they would consider Goran a far better get for what they want to do than Rondo.

    I don't know if the Spurs are interested in Goran. What I'm illustrating is just because Rondo went off at a cheap trade price DOES NOT MEAN that Goran will.
     
  12. Airdough

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    But 1% of the time, his predictons are right everytime.
     
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    Lol so instead of saying ALL that!!! You could have said that Dragic was a combo guard who can do more than only pay PG which is why Goran won't be as cheap as Rondo?
     
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    No, that would not have been understood either. And it would have been derided the same way everything else is. Hang around and watch it happen to you. Unintelligent, immature people go the route of personal attack when they can't discuss the subject matter with knowledge and insight.
     
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    yeah I agree with that.Spurs Kings LA Miami Charlotte Knicks all these teams would be extremely interested in Dragic and the question is what they have to trade for him.
    But Rockets is not his only market and Goran's market is much bigger than Rondo.
    The max contract at this point is not a limiting factor because of the 2016 90 million cap . Even if you get over the tax in 2015 you are not afraid of any penalties next year.
     
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    Any chance we can turn the Enes Kanter market into a three team trade with PHX & Utah?
     
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    Sun's insider:

     
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    In summary, we are taking the side of the Suns and simply stating that just because a team has a good point guard, they would be willing to trade for Goran because of his varied skill sets (combo guard who creates, spots up, and can excel in many different lineups).

    Therefore, Dragic could have a bigger trade market than Rondo and potentially increases the cost of a trade (in assets now and future salary).

    I am fairly certain this has been stated in other threads, podcasts, etc. on this site many times over.
     
  19. vator

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    Oops...duplicate post. LarsV8 obviously had the same idea that I had.

    Words from a supposed Suns "insider" on RealGM.

    Seems to be in line with what a lot of people are thinking here. Goran will decide his own fate sometime today most likely. Ironically, him being greedy would work out great for us right now in the short term and then the exact opposite would be true a few months down the road if we're able to acquire him under these circumstances. I still find it hard to imagine that they would be willing to invest so much money in two guys that play the same position essentially.
     
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  20. J.R.

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    Not a surprise but...

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>On Ty Lawson: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Nuggets?src=hash">#Nuggets</a> have been called about his availability by numerous teams, but thus far have rebuffed those advances, sources say.</p>&mdash; Chris Dempsey (@dempseypost) <a href="https://twitter.com/dempseypost/status/567709022304759808">February 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Nuggets?src=hash">#Nuggets</a> have not actively shopped him.</p>&mdash; Chris Dempsey (@dempseypost) <a href="https://twitter.com/dempseypost/status/567709122485690368">February 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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