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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Two Sandwiches, Jul 11, 2014.

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  1. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Member

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    Morey is NOT dealing Dwight Howard. It makes sense to fanboys, but this is a business. Even if Morey wanted to make that type of deal, his hands would be tied in many different areas to not even mention his name. Anyone who even brings this up is completely delusional about the business side of the game.
     
  2. sabesque

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    So none of it was on whether or not it was a possibility? Just what he would add to the rockets?
     
  3. J Sizzle

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    I disagree. Bledsoe has more potential, locked up to a longterm deal, and is much younger. He's the much better piece for the Suns to build around.
     
  4. dobro1229

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    Maybe not. But there are alot of Bledsoe connections, and there has been alot of smoke to the Love to Phoenix rumors in the past. They've been after him for years now, and I wouldn't be shocked at all if that is target #1 for Phoenix. NOT D-Mo or whatever kind of poo poo platter you guys conjure up on the trade machine.
     
  5. vince

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    Surprised to see how quiet it has been.
     
  6. Carl Herrera

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    Morey met with Lowry to tell him to wait for Melo to reject the Rockets before the Rockets would make Lowry an offer.
     
  7. PersianRocket

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    Hold up. You just called me delusional for saying Howard to Toronto but you're saying Cleveland trades for Bledsoe and sends away Kevin Love? New and improved Kevin Love? To phoenix to get another guard when Cleveland has a on of 2 guards and a very capable Kyrie Irving at the 1 and send away Kevin love and weaken their front court more? Where's the business side to this?
     
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    While I wish we would have gotten Lowry in the offseason, looking back our team is probably better off that we didn't sign him then, especially if we can get Dragic now.

    If we signed Lowry, we probably would have followed up by keeping Parsons since that was the plan if we landed any big name free agent. We would be locked in with this team:

    Lowry / Bev / Canaan
    Harden / Daniels / Johnson
    Parsons / Garcia
    Jones/ D-Mo
    Howard / Capela

    No Lin TPE to get Brewer (or Shved as an expiring), no money to get Pap to come over, we would have been right at the hard cap by signing Parsons so probably no Smoove, no space to get Terry. The starting lineup pretty much makes up the whole salary cap. Starting 5 does look good but that bench is so weak!

    Would much rather have (provided we trade Shved, Jones and NOP pick for Dragic and Plumlee, theoretically):

    Dragic / Bev / Canaan
    Harden / Terry/ Johnson
    Ariza / Brewer
    DMo / Smoove / Capela
    Howard / Plumlee / Dorsey

    That team is deep and loaded!

    Of course if Lowry was available now, like Cyberx said, then replace Dragic with Lowry and remove Terry to make salaries work and its the same thing.

    If we can get Dragic now, that horrible 2014 NBA offseason will look like a blessing in disguise.
     
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  9. dobro1229

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    Honestly, I'd rather have Bledsoe to build around. However if you look at how Phoenix handled the Bledsoe situation this Summer, I think its clear to me that they might not share the same sentiment about him vs. Dragic as their face of the franchise. Especially coming off of a year where Goran was 3rd team all-NBA, and Bledsoe had struggled to stay healthy for longer than a minute.

    I'm not saying this guy is better than that guy. What I am saying is that there is smoke there that signals Phoenix might very well choose to give the keys back to Goran as their lead guard and face of the franchise, and might have been planning all along to resign Bledsoe only to deal him for a key big like a Kevin Love months later.
     
  10. J.R.

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    Nope, nothing worthwhile.

    Guess we'll have to wait until tomorrow [after the "meeting"] for something to come out.
     
  11. The Cat

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    Somehow that was ESPN's most insightful analysis on SC tonight, considering it was followed by a story on whether the Lakers are contenders next year and then extensive Dog Show analysis, complete with representative dogs on set. *sigh*
     
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  12. Fullcourt

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    crossing my fingers that this meeting works in our favor. I seriously doubt Dragic's camp gives any semblance of a commitment, given his comments all year about giving every team a shot this summer. Tough spot for PHX, but if they may have to move him if they hope to maintain flexibility to obtain a guy like Boogie this summer. That NO pick could be a pretty asset once the season ends.
     
  13. sabesque

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    Thanks for taking one for the team J.R.
     
  14. dobro1229

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    The "business" is that Dwight Howard and his people have Morey by the balls. Hence the Parsons contract debacle. They definitely have power in the Rockets front office as it concerns Dwight's future. Then you add in the Rockets angle from a marketing/Les Alexander perspective. He's not getting traded unless he's truly done or asks out himself.

    The "Business" from Clevelands angle is that Lebron, Thompson, and Bledsoe are all part of Lebron's empire.
     
  15. J Sizzle

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    That's fair.

    I think they just regret the Thomas signing (obviously), and would like to go back to the Dragic/Bledsoe backcourt from last year.

    Part of me wonders if they already have a Thomas deal lined up with somebody, but are hesitant to pull the trigger until they know whether Dragic plans on resigning with them. Worst case scenario for them would be to just end up with 1 of their 3 guys.

    I guess we'll find out.
     
  16. RoxBeliever

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    Lowry also said repeatedly he wanted to be the man on his own team. He wouldn't be that here in HOU. I think that plus loyalty to TOR played a factor in his decision.
     
  17. PersianRocket

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    Well yeah I understand that. And he possibly could if we landed a backup Center that could challenge him I.e. Valanciunas or Kanter. The same way Lowry wanted out when Dragic took throne.
     
  18. dobro1229

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    Obviously Dwight has gone from being polarizing to extremely underrated if you think he's on the level of player that a Valanciunas or especially Kanter would ever press him for the starter position. Jeezus. People act like Dwight Howard all the sudden can't walk and chew at the same time. The guy, even in a down year with injuries, is still a top 3 defensive center in the league. Love the guy or hate him, but he's becoming criminally underrated practically overnight around here.
     
  19. JMAD21

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    Hey CyberX, what's it like to have thousands of rockets fans feast on your every word??
     
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    Ricky Rubio shares the same agent as Dwight and has the personality and court game to feed Dwight the ball and make his life very easy on the offensive end.
     
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