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Muslim church in Texxxas admits to being suspected to having been burned by big arsonisttts

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  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    Muslims are the alleged perps in a crime - see they are terrorists and Islam is to blame, and proof that they support it because no one publishes their condemnation of the crime.

    Muslims are the victims of a crime - they are playing the self-victimization card and probably did it themselves for attention. Further proves they are terrorists.
     
  2. AroundTheWorld

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    No, that's not it. It's far from "all Muslims are terrorists".

    It's just that Muslim propagandists (and their leftist allies) use anything that could be a crime committed specifically against Muslims and try to generate as much media hoopla as they can around it, whereas when Muslims commit the crime, the same people try to pretend that either it didn't happen, Islam has nothing to do with it, crusades, etc.

    When there is a real hate crime against Muslims, it should be condemned, just as hate crimes against anyone else.

    But there is proof that alleged hate crimes are systematically used for political gain by Islamist activists.

    The reality is that they are much more often the aggressor than the victim, at least in Europe.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    http://www.splcenter.org/home/2012/spring/fbi-bias-crimes-against-muslims-remain-at-high-levels

    Seems that since the anti-Muslim and Islam rhetoric has been increasing so has hate-crimes against those groups in the U.S.

    Europe seems to be a different matter:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/01/will-this-time-be-different/384322/


    But it does appear there is a cycle here with the anti-Muslim rhetoric aggravating the situation and inspiring violence on both sides. It obviously is not the source but it is inflaming vs. leading to any kind of fruitful resolution.
     
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    Is this like the mirror image version of the false flag Mossad operations responsible for all the terror attacks in the last 20 years just to make Muslims look back? :)
     
  5. ipaman

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    Islamophobia is real but so are Islamic Terrorists. Can't expect a bunch of sheeple 'mericans to be able to figure it all out and reach logical conclusions. Alot of blame to go around.
     
  6. mc mark

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    Only ATW could turn a possible hate crime against Muslims around and blame on Muslims.

    incredible
     
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    Only mc mark could ignore the actual hate crimes committed by Muslims in Copenhagen while feigning outrage in a thread about a possible hate crime against Muslims.

    Incredible.
     
  8. mc mark

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    You are sick dude.

    Seek help
     
  9. AroundTheWorld

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    You are sick, mc mark. Seek help.
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    Is there any actual evidence that this arson was started by the members of the mosque themselves?
     
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    Is there any actual evidence about who started this arson?
     
  12. mc mark

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    LOL!

    I'm not the one who looks over their shoulder for the big, scary mooslim every second of the day.

    Like I said, you obviously have some type of phobia that needs to be addressed. I hope you find the help you need before it drives you insane (if it hasn't already).

    I hope you find peace
     
  13. rocketsjudoka

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    So you actually have no specific information and instead are just arguing on speculation.
     
  14. mc mark

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    The very definition of paranoia.
     
  15. rocketsjudoka

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    So you actually have no specific information and instead are just arguing on speculation.

    You're one of the one's claiming the possibility that Muslims might've started this themselves. If so then it would be reasonable to expect that you have evidence for that. If you are just arguing on the basis of a trying to prove a negative that is a logical fallacy.
     
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    Arguing for a possibility requires evidence it happened? He isn't arguing aliens POSSIBLY started it.
     
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    LOL ATW always arguing against conspiracies but when it goes against his agenda then it can only be a conspiracy. Seek help, ATW. Should start a new hashtag on CF.
     
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    Just like everyone who is assuming that this is a hate crime.
     
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    Spare us your crap. "I hope you find peace." What are you, a priest?
     
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    Generally when any kind of religious institution or controversial has an act of arson committed against there's a pattern of it being motivated by hate. It's not an illogical thing to be suspicious of given the historical evidence.

    It seems far more of a stretch that someone would burn their own building in order to feign a hate crime in order to generate sympathy.
     

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