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Charles Barkley Getting attacked for what he said

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by sand333, Feb 12, 2015.

  1. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Then Barkley will be just like a couple of the regular posters in D&D. That's not meant as a compliment.
     
  2. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    Wrong forum.
     
  3. tinman

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  4. crash5179

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    Apparently its been years since he has backed down from a cheeseburger as well!

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  5. roslolian

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    DM already did his job, when took the role years ago the Rox had the oldest team in the league with Yao Ming set to retire and Tmac playing like **** (and about to retire as well). They werent just the oldest team though, they were also capped out with players like Luther Head and Rafer Alston on the team.

    Now we look at the Rox and you have one of the best players in the league in Harden and another dude who could be one of the best players as well in Dwight if he was healthy. You also have a team flush with assets like Dmo, Tjones, Pelly pick etc.

    Why does a first round exit invalidate all of that and make Barkley a genius? If we had Barkley as a GM would he be able to turn aroudn the team this much in just a few years?

    The problem here is most of the people hatin on DM have short term memory and forget everything that happened after the season is done. They act like DM is just getting the job this year and all the work done on the roster and talent is done by someone else. "Oh first round exit again? Fire DM!" :rolleyes:

    Like getting a guy like Harden and Dwight on the squad without tanking can be done by just anyone :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  6. DaDakota

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    Dmorey needs to build a playoff roster, as the man in charge he has to bear some of the burden if he can't builid a playoff winning team.

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  7. dachuda86

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    Barkley is really smart in some instances, but falls short in so many other areas... Because he's just talking. He's a TV personality. A lot of it is not thought through... A lot of it is him being emotional. It's stupid that Morey engaged him, but I guess Morey felt like getting some twitter love. He does like social media.
     
  9. J.R.

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    [rQUOTEr]Charles Barkley doesn't back down on analytics stance

    NEW YORK -- Charles Barkley being Charles Barkley, you knew he wasn't about to back down from a fight.

    Even when he's the one getting pummeled.

    Just days after his anti-analytics rant on TNT sparked a storm of criticism that has yet to stop, the always-outspoken analyst who called Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey "one of those idiots who believe in analytics" found himself surrounded by, well, other "idiots" who believe in analytics. At the NBA's All-Star Technology Summit during All-Star weekend, Barkley was part of an analytics panel that also included known advocates like Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban, San Antonio Spurs general manager R.C. Buford, and Sacramento Kings owner Vivek Ranadive. Lakers legend Magic Johnson and New York Knicks team president Phil Jackson also took part.

    The off-the-record session was entertaining, but it didn't have the kind of fireworks that some expected considering the way the week had went. Morey was nowhere to be found on the panel (which he was part of the year before) or the Waldorf hotel conference room crowd, having taken his strong stance on the matter earlier in the week when he tweeted "Best part of being at a TNT game live is it is easy to avoid Charles spewing misinformed biased vitriol disguised as entertainment."

    In a chat with USA TODAY Sports afterward, Barkley gave his latest explanation as to why he seems so set against the type of in-depth statistical analysis that has become commonplace in today's game.

    "I'm not anti-analytical, but I think that basketball is about talent and coaching and things like that," Barkley said. "I didn't have (a) problem with anything today. And I never have a problem with somebody disagreeing with me. I still believe the game is about talent. Are stats important? Yeah, they're a small part of it, but the game still comes down to talent."

    Had Morey been the one questioning Barkley, this is the part where he probably would have laughed out loud because of something Barkley said about the Rockets' most talented player just a few years ago. As Morey was sure to point out on his Twitter timeline this week, Barkley was not a fan of the James Harden trade with Oklahoma City in Oct. 2012. Harden was a sixth man at the time, and Barkley simply didn't see him evolving into the kind of player who could carry a team. Three years later, Harden is not only leading the league in scoring but is neck-and-neck with Golden State Warriors point guard Stephen Curry in the MVP race.

    As Barkley has said many times before, he still has a desire to be a general manager one day. That goal remains, and it will be fascinating going forward to see what sorts of opportunities may or may not come his way in light of his views that – while certainly shared quietly by some in the player/coach/executive community – are widely considered behind the times.

    Barkley walked away from the panel feeling unscathed, saying afterward that "I thought everybody agreed with me. The only person who disagreed with me was the guy who was trying to disagree with me. Vivek."

    Despite their disagreements, Barkley said he agreed with the Kings owner on one thing: his decision to hire George Karl as his head coach this week. But Charles being Charles, his compliment was quickly followed by a "I love George Karl, and I guarantee you George Karl is not going to be worried about analytics," he said.

    If nothing else, these semi-frequent Barkely feuds on the topic of analytics are, in essence, serving as a demand that the dialogue continues. Cuban, for his part,

    "I don't think there were any new takeaways," Cuban told USA TODAY Sports. "I think it's not an easy job, it's not an easy business. There's only one winner and 29 losers every year, so because there's no one template everyone does the best they can. Charles has his views. Vivek has his views. You have legends, RC Buford with more rings than anybody else up there other than Phil. So there is no template. I just try to learn, and to give everybody a hard time every now and then."

    He's not the only one.[/rQUOTEr]
     
  10. txppratt

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    barkley sounded like an ignorant douche to me...
     
  11. WinkFan

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    This is true. TNT had Ernie, Kenny, and Charles. So what did they do? They went out and got another Barkley(Shaq).
     
  12. meadowlark

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    What a sobering thought!! Barkley as a GM. Never happen.
     
  13. RockingRox

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    I guess you are right. Whenever people calls Barkley stupid, Barkly wins and Morey loses.

    Right.
     
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    having the 3rd best defensive team isn't exactly chalked up to analytics.

    and how many GM's who have never played the game came before Daryl Morey and the moneyball concept in basketball?

    it goes without saying that his comments don't hold any water.
     
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    Chuck making sure to say Klay is the best 2-guard in the league.

    What a douche.
     
  17. Houstunna

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    Barkley has feminine tendencies and mannerisms.

    He probably likes men as well.



    Not saying there's anything wrong with that.




    #scornedwoman
     
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    He just hated on Harden out of nowhere in the All-Star Fashion thing. Hater to the max.
     
  19. J.R.

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    Simmons & Lowe on the BS Report

    BS: ...Wanna talk advanced metrics thing? It was weird. I enjoyed 40% of it. They were having fun with it. When you make your point that analytics don't win championships and two of the last four champions won partly because of analytics, that hurts your argument.

    ZL: He doesn't know what he's talking about. When you say what analytics do the Spurs have? The answer is like the second largest department behind Houston. His general point, you can have all the analytics you want, if you don't have one or two top ten players, it's like no crap. There have been zero people who have said I can win just with analytics. No one has said that. It's a straw man argument. Morey, king of analytics, has been saying for 3-4 years everything we're doing is trying to get a superstar. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

    BS: Then he said, if you get James Harden...they got Harden because he picked up all these assets because he's really smart and packaged..they used analytics to get all the assets they used for the James Harden trade. So it's not like Hey, we stumbled into James Harden! It was a series of decisions led to that.

    ZL: I wish the word analytics had never been invented. Analytics should be called being smart. Analytics is salary analysis, projections of players, valuing draft picks vs. players and thinking Lowry is really good but the draft pick we get for him will be more valuable in our quest to get a superstar. It's looking at James Harden and realizing how good he was, even when he was coming off the bench. There were some teams that didn't think Harden was this good. I can't address what Barkley said.

    BS: I knew he was good when he destroyed the Spurs.

    ZL: It always comes back to Harden.
     
  20. heypartner

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    As I said, Morey's tweet failed to achieve jack ****

    Rockets are just Nerds now.
     

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