Steph cp3 wall Lowry dragic Bledsoe Teague Lillard Westbrook parker rondo Rubio Kyrie rose Kemba Conley Harden (if he is counted as a pg) Possibly Jarret jack d will smart Mcw Peyton Vasquez IT is not top 15that's absurd he's better than lin, bev, and maybe a few others from garbage teams
1 Curry 2 Paul 3 Westbrook 4 Lowry 5 Wall 6 Lillard 7 Conley 8 Rose 9 Teague 10 Irving 11 Bledsoe 12 Dragic 13 Knight 14 Parker (Really he's only ranked this high because oh his reputation) 15 Lawson/Thomas So IMO, Thomas is either 15 or 16. I'm taking Thomas over Collison Williams Walker Jennings And the other players you named aren't even in this convo.
Thomas is definitely not top 15. He's still on the bottom half as far as pg's. He's done absolutely nothing to put himself with the top half of the leagues best
So do you have anything to back that? Or... because Thomas has been balling these last 2 seasons, his stats are what puts in the the top half of the leagues best. Outside of my top 16, who's better?
His stats are very impressive, and the list given to me earlier was complete trash. He named Smart, who is averaging 6.8 points on 37% on a list of players who are possibly better.
[rQUOTEr]... The Suns have not proved to be Western Conference playoff contenders, going 1-10 in their past 11 games against the West's other top-10 teams. They remain in eighth place at 29-25, but it does not appear to be for long with a more difficult remaining schedule than Oklahoma City (28-25) and New Orleans (27-26). The Suns' finishing stretch has them playing .500-plus teams for 12 of their final 14 games. The Suns and Pelicans each have 14 remaining home games but Oklahoma City has 17 left. The Suns went 1-5 into the break. The Pelicans went 1-4 but at least can blame injuries to Anthony Davis and Jrue Holiday. Oklahoma City went 5-1 and can tout a 17-9 record when Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook both play. The Suns do have a chance to control destiny with two games to go against Oklahoma City (both at home) and two with New Orleans (one at home). The daunting depth of the West would not be the only culprit to deny a winning Suns team a postseason bid again. The Suns have gone 0-4 in overtime games and 2-9 in games decided by three points or fewer. They have lost four games on buzzer shots and even the crazy ones were preceded by golden opportunities to avoid those situations. After emphasizing how they could not take opponents lightly, they did just that. Teams with losing records beat them seven times, including five at home, over the first 24 games. The Suns have voids in their frontcourt, leadership and star factor. That is why they have to be callers as much as listeners this week. Their roster has more players for two backcourt positions (eight) than three frontcourt positions (seven), and only one pure power forward, albeit an undersized one. The future of Goran Dragic remains their largest conundrum. He is the closest thing that the Suns have to a face of the franchise; he's a fan favorite and was a 2014 All-NBA third-team player. He was removed from that season's role after the addition of Isaiah Thomas and the full-season return of Eric Bledsoe. Last season, Dragic ran the team when Bledsoe was hurt or out of a game. This season, he almost always plays off the ball — and his frustration has been clear. Dragic's allegiance to the Suns has been above reproach. When he was dumped for a second-round pick to get Aaron Brooks, he still came back in free agency to a bad team. That loyalty would be tested if the Suns keep him through the end of the season, when he surely will pass on a $7.5 million player option to be an unrestricted free agent. Houston, the Los Angeles Lakers and New York are on a short list of teams who like Dragic, have the ability to acquire him and need a point guard in a league loaded with top-flight or on-the-rise playmakers. That will prompt the Suns to consider Dragic trade options this week if it appears he will head elsewhere in the offseason. It is not a scenario they want for a player with All-Star ability who brings unquestioned effort and ideal character. But Dragic's next contract will extend into his 30s and it would be difficult to trade Thomas for equal value (and it's unlikely that they would trade Bledsoe). What the Suns really would like is to be in a position to trade for a star player, should one become available elsewhere. Ideally, it would be a player who could shore up the frontline, bail them out of droughts with interior scoring and get to the free-throw line. Maybe DeMarcus Cousins is a year away from that situation. In the meantime, their trade assets include all of their own first-round picks, a Los Angeles Lakers first-round pick (top-five protected this year or, more likely, top-three protected next year), Gerald Green's expiring contract or young players with no role (such as Archie Goodwin and Tyler Ennis) or a reduced role (Green or Miles Plumlee). Any deal would be made in the name of building an elite team down the line, not a fringe playoff team now. http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...uns-trade-deadline-goran-dragic-nba/23378915/[/rQUOTEr]
Putting up numbers on a terrible team like sac is not impressive. And smart isn't even one of the obvious top half pg's named on that list. He's bottom tier period
He's not suggesting Cousins for Dragic. He's referring to Cousins as the type of player the Suns need to eventually swing a deal for -- much like the Rockets in 2012 when they were in the asset-accumulation mode that eventually led to Harden. The prospect of eventually dealing for someone like Cousins is the very reason they might deal Dragic now. Assets like the NO 1st (whoever it ends up being) and young prospects are going to be far more attractive to a team dealing a star than a 30-year-old Goran Dragic on a max or near-max deal.
You are parsing words. He is implying that Dragic is worth someone of Cousins' caliber. I reiterate that he is not. You are thinking like Morey, trade assets for future picks, only to be traded later for better assets.
Hakeemtheking, you are not comprehending that post correctly. The Cat is spot on about what he meant.
The Cat is correct. He's talking about trading Dragic now to help put them "in a position" to acquire a star "down the line." He even mentions their current assets, which would probably be combined with their Dragic haul to pursue a player on the level of a Cousins.
You have a reading comprehension problem. The author makes no connection between Dragic and Cousins. Morey trades assets for future picks, and trades the picks later for James Harden.
Goran Dragic on the Suns this year is a lot like Kyle Lowry on the Rockets in 2011-12. He is a really good player-- undoubtedly better than most guys you can draft with a late lotto pick. You don't want to let him go, but the clock is ticking on his contract. The Rockets would have no doubt preferred keeping Lowry and using their assets to add other top level talent next to him. They tried for years for Pau, Nene, Dwight and Melo and failed with all of them. Eventually, the Rockets realized they had to cash in Kyle's extremely under-priced contract for an asset that has more hope of keeping its value over time and being attractive to a team forced to trade away an elite player.
That would seal the deal, but the Rockets are likely to offer a bit less. Probably NOP, Knicks 2nd rd, Pap, Shved, Dorsey.
Yeah, I have reading and comprehension problems. Wonder why I was able to finish top third in my law school.
