Would you trade Donatas Motiejunas for Goran Dragic?

With healthy Dwight, I'd have no problems even with DMo's recent surge. But Dwight seems like he'll be on a maintenance plan for the rest of the contract. So we have to have DMo here.

For me to trade DMo, it would at least have to be someone of Love's caliber.

 

EXACTLY!!! We could easily by next season be the current version of the Suns. No thank you!!!!! DMO is just scratching the surface of what he can be. People don't think he has enough upside because he isn't super athletic. Well neither is Dunkin. You don't trade a 24 year old 7 footer who's game is steadily trending upwards for a backcourt player when you don't have a single other frontcourt player of note without an uncertain future.

 

HAHA so bad man, 73% of this board has the typical loser mentality. Just think about it, you guys will not trade a player, that is not even the best PF in the team (IMO), you guys will tell me he is, so let´s meet in the middle, he is marginally better then Josh Smith.

Still you are not willing to trade that guy for a PG that is a massive upgrade in the biggest need of the team, playmaking that we need to mask McHale incompetence as a coach.

Reasons you guys give: D12 is not healthy - Why would you care about DMO being the best backup C in our team? We will not win a championship with DMO playing center period. This man has no body to bang up in the middle, he gets absolutely handled physically every time he plays a real C, and I don´t blame him for lack of effort on that front.

Dmo is going to be this beast of a player - Look he will not be anything special in this league (IMO), but let´s assume he has that potential, you don´t stop yourself from upgrading the team, if you feel you are close to the ring. That means you trade Wiggins for Kevin Love, you just have to after you get Lebron regardless of Wiggins upside, and I think we can all agree his "ceiling" is definitely higher.

 

With a healthy Dwight, a back up better than Dorsey, TJones, and Smith, YES.

With an injured Dwight and Dorsey, NO.

 

I think it's irrelevant. It won't be necessary. The Suns know they're losing Dragic in the off-season anyway. Everybody knows it. He's as good as gone and they have to get something for him before he goes.

The only other possible suitor I've seen mentioned is the Lakers. The Suns already have their pick. What else do they have that is even desirable?

All of the other playoff teams seem to have legit point guards. All of the rebuilding teams aren't going to want to give up a lottery pick. Who is going to offer a better package? I think we'll be able to get him for the lotto pick and matching salaries. If sweetening it becomes necessary at all, they add somebody like Capela. I don't even think Jones will be in play - much less Motiejunas.

 

I know what you're saying here, but this trade isn't just for this season. Its to solidify the PG position for as long as Harden is a Rocket. And while I'd hate to go into this years playoffs without a solid frontline, DMO isn't enough to get us to the finals anyways if we don't address not having a secondary ball handler/playmaker.

If Dwight, TJones, Josh Smith aren't enough to get it done this season, then we address it in the off season IMHO.

 

It's all about scarcity. You can find another athletic 6'9 PF easily, we could dump Jones and replace him with another version of him with no trouble whatsoever.....finding another 7 foot tall PF with a polished post game that can shoot 3's and play defense like DMo? Not happening.

Also PG is the deepest position in the NBA so even a player like Dragic isn't anywhere near that rare. You don't trade rare talent for talent that's fairly easy to find. If you could sucker the Suns into trading Dragic for Jones, you do it in a heartbeat, but in no way to you offer DMo. Jones is the easily replaceable redundant player in that we already have a better version of him on the roster in Josh Smith.

 

The thing is, the Rockets can upgrade without using DMo. And he's cost control for this and next year. When it comes to deals, it's not just player v. player. It's opportunity cost.

 

No way. Hard to believe so many would do it. You just can't trade the best post player on the team especially when he will only get better.

 

Nope. I like Dragic, but I would never give up D-Mo for him.

 

That is not what this thread is about. No one is asking if trading Dmo for Dragic is the best deal out there to improve the team because you and me don´t actually know what other deals are out there, we dont even know if Dmo is needed to make the trade happen, the question is "would you trade dmo for Dragic?"

And the answer should be obvious, but look I respect different opinions but when you have 73% of the people with the wrong (IMO) opinion based on bad justifications you feel like you have to express your opinion on it.

But we all know what is the problem for the most part, people on CF overrate the hell out of DMO, something he doesn´t deserve because he is a good player and has been solidly improving. Of course people go from there and say that DMO will be a great defender and an elite post scorer because he has fancy moves, and ignore the clear holes he has on his game and big ones at that.

Believe it or not, there are quite a few people that defend the idea of dmo being an untradable player, think about it.

 

And if Howards health doesn't improve and he is only a shell of himself, Jones nerve damage doesn't allow him to return to his best form which wasn't ever great and Smith goes elsewhere next year, where are we? Just another version of this years Suns team. YAAAA!!!!!

 

I wonder how quickly you people will turn against Motiejunas.

 

Honestly though, if the Rockets offer the NOP first and the NYK second and the Suns say that it's no deal unless DMo is involved I'm pretty sure Morey's reaction would be similar to this

 

IF that all happens, BUT WE HAVE DMO......... he are clear contenders.......

Great contribution

 

**** no

 

So what I read you saying is we ain't winning a championship anyways so might as well trade DMo.


What I remember is last year's playoffs. We needed 3 bigs to defend Portland. We didn't have them. We had 2 bigs. (We actually had 3 bigs but McHale refused to play DMo, sticking with Jones as the 2nd and 3rd big throughout the series.)

And just a few games ago it was proven again that Jones cannot defend big bigs...which is what the West is full of on our path to a championship. So, I suppose if you really don't want to compete in the playoffs this year..you trade DMo and we hope Dwight gets healthy and then we hope we can skate through with Dwight and Josh Smith, two players who are 6'10" and 6'9" along with the aforementioned Jones as our big man rotation. Oh....but we got Dorsey....all 6'7" of him.

You don't trade DMo for Goran if you are trying to win a championship. You trade DMo for Kevin Love. And/or you trade other pieces for Goran.

 

Yes you have to do it and I am convinced this is all it would take to get Dragic. Our opportunity to win a title is now and we need to take risks like this in order to get the first seed and become title contenders.

Dmo is a great asset and he could be the next up and coming euro big man. However that's a big IF. We will have Josh Smith/Terrance Jones holding it down. People forget TJ was untouchable 3-4 weeks into the season and Dmo was a 2nd round asset at best. Also Capella could be the next person up and perform just as well as Dmo (not as good offensively but perhaps better defensively) who knows how well he will perform given Dmo's minutes.

This trade literally puts us in front of the pack to win out the West. If we had Dragic from the beginning of the season I think most people would agree we would be looking at the 1-2 seed instead of 4th. If we don't do the trade we are looking at 4-7th seed since Harden will most likely get fatigued he cannot continue carrying this team by himself.

Think about it... when will we ever have an opportunity like this to win a title? Atlanta Hawks/Bulls and Golden State/Grizzlies are the best teams in the NBA. Spurs are on the decline, LeBron is getting acclimated with his new team the window is NOW, OKC is injured and fighting for the 8th seed. The time is now, get it done Morey!!

 

No, I say we trade dmo for Dragic if needed, because:

D12
Jsmoove
Ariza
Harden
Dragic

Is the most talented starting lineup in the league IMO.

Another thing that also needs to stop in this forum is how people crucify Jones because he was destroyed by LA. Regardless of much you and others think DMO is good defensively, he would have also got destroyed by LA.

The problem last year against LA is that Coach was clueless, and put people on an island defending a red hot mid range god in LA. you stop LA by making him think about the double team, you make him hesitate, if all he has to do is shoot over someone, it doesn´t matter who that someone is (plus the calls he gets are terrible).

And lol at that last part "You trade DMo for Kevin Love.", I could also say "you dont trade first round picks for dragic, you trade bev for dragic"

Dmo is extremely overrated defensively in this forum.

 

I predict trade will be done but not how anyone thinks will go down.

It is great to have Goran back BUT without a functional front court, no DH no DMO, no game. Sorry, Dorey as starter is DOA. DH back in 8 weeks maybe too late even if he comes back strong.

As is with DMO it is barely adequate. Trade as suggested and there is good chance the front court will lose enough games to made all this mute point.

And the point that it is a rental cannot be overstated. If Goran will not commit to resign it is an all in gamble that will blow up in our faces if he walks.