do you live in chicago? ppl rarely, rarely get shot execution style over a parking lot fight. skin color and religion are rare too but not that rare.
Think of it more as a property dispute and it probably makes more sense. It was a fight over apartment complex parking, those can get really heated....especially if one of those involved is apparently crazy.
It's just a solid statement really. Here's one of my favorite quotes about Dawkins <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>It's admirable for <a href="https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins">@RichardDawkins</a> to show us you don't need religion to be a closed minded bigot who wants to force his beliefs on everyone</p>— Existential Comics (@existentialcoms) <a href="https://twitter.com/existentialcoms/status/555441004010950656">January 14, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Islamists kill people and explicitly say they do it in the name of Islam - reaction by leftists: "socio-economic reasons, has nothing to do with Islam" Some crazy guy shoots their neighbors who happen to be Muslims - reaction by leftists: "it MUST be a hate crime! he did it because they were Muslims"
A person of Islamic faith commits a crime - reaction from bigots: "It's radical Islam! It's terrorism!" An American shoots three Muslims execution-style in the head - reaction from bigots: "It was a parking dispute!" Or, "Let's get all the facts sorted out first, guys!" Or, "Why is this news?" See? I can do it too.
Couple of thoughts. 1) "Execution style". What does this mean to everyone? Where in the police reports is this detailed? I google it and all I see are non-witnesses and non-authorities editorializing about it. 2) From what we've been told, he shot them in the head in a small confined space. That's not exactly an automatic qualifier for this "execution style" meme, unless your definitions are quite broad. Regardless of whether he shot them "execution" style, "old west" style, or honey mustard BBQ ranch style, he clearly shot them with an intent to kill them. That happens over material/territory often. People seem to be assuming he lined them up, gave some super villain type speech to them, and then plugged them in the back of the head and dumped their bodies in a ditch or something. Like I said, the simplest explanation is usually the correct one. Guy with clear psychopathic tendencies is armed with a gun and has a dispute (in this case, ongoing) with someone. This usually ends in tragedy.
you nailed it. i would add socio-ecnomic reasons to a lot of christian and non christian bigots too. they are mostly male, white, uneducated, unemployed or making little money who don't like the minority moslems taking their jobs and mingling with their kids. so what around the globe said is wrong. there are socio-economic reasons for both sides acting the way they are.
I live in Chicago. People are shot here because of poverty and gang violence. Very seldom is religion or skin color the reason. Far more people are killed over someone losing there cool than because they are white, black, etc.
yeah i was told they were shot in the back of the head after he broke into their house so that is execution to me. but if it were not, it would be plain buttermilk ranch style. a psycopath has no business owning a gun especially someone who thought falling down was the best movie of all time and laughing at it. thats the one where michael douglas goes on a shooting rampage. also if the prop managers got so many complaints and did nothing about him they need to be sued.
No, you are wrong. The difference is that the Islamists explicitly state that their motive is Islam.. This murderer hasn't stated anything about his motive. Might his political views have been a contributing factor? Maybe - we don't know. Yet, you leftists desperately try to make it a "hate crime". Maybe it is one, maybe not. In any case, it is a despicable crime. But the ones who are contorting the truth to fit your political agenda are you guys. Because you turn a blind eye to it when Islamists explicitly state that Islam is their motive and refer to "socio-economic reasons", but when there is a guy who hasn't even stated a motive murders someone, you try to exploit that for political gain.
He vocally states harsh truths and criticisms on religion and more specifically young earth creationism. People don't like that. Similar to Socrates in the Apology he is riducled for being blunt and honest. His critisms in no way shape or form incite violence. It's a shame that this tragedy will culminate into more disdain for legitimate critism of theistic ideologies.
Kind of off topic, but I might be dangerous too. Because Falling Down is one of the best movies of all time and I find a lot of parts of it pretty damn hilarious. It could almost be classified as a black comedy for goodness sakes. Anyway, the more I read about this guy's political leanings, the less I think it had anything to do with religion.
Yep right after his doctorate and years of research he decided it was a complete waste and closed his mind right up!
I could be mistaken but I recall hearing they had been shot inside their home. Even if they hadn't been shot in their home I'm still not certain what makes this an "execution style" killing other than they were shot in the head. Again I want to emphasize I'm not trying to downplay the how horrible this crime is but I think we need to be very careful about Hick's motivations. This case already is inflaming emotions and the repercussions of this could be much much farther than just in the US. My own feeling from what I've seen is that while Hicks was hateful of the religious this incident very might be primarily motivated by his anger of a long simmering dispute over parking.
execution style generally refers to a non combative murder. No defensive wounds, no bullets through arms. Cold blood and no way to claim self defense.
It sounds like you're doing the opposite of the leftists. Of course, he isn't gonna say it wasn't motivated by religion, race, etc bc that would mean the death penalty? I encouraged people to wait for more info but common sense is common sometimes. The guy clearly had problems with them aside from a parking dispute. The victims from all accounts didn't have anger issues (like cursing out the dude). Killing them execution style in the head. Pretty crappy way to go and the families have to bury them like that.
Thanks for the clarification. I'm still not sure how much that supports or contradicts whether this was a hate crime.
Often the perpetrator is a person who suffers from a weak mental or psychological state and influnced by people who incite to hatred such Atw or yellow hasbara media then commits a horrible crimes
