Keep in mind he had to deal tonight with no Dwight, no T-Jones, and Bev and D-Mo in foul trouble. Not an easy task. The one area even a doubter like me will give him props is how he's held this thing together up til now with all the injuries and inconsistent play from key guys in the rotation.
You said "Minutes can always be questionable but there's no question when facing elite coaches or teams that have a solid game plan, McHale is outfoxed and outsmarted in EACH AND EVERY facet of the game. Without Harden's MVP season, this guy isn't sniffing the playoffs." Yet here we are in 3rd place in the toughest conference in history..... Without Harden we wouldn't be talented enough to make it into the playoffs.... Durrrrr..... It's past your bed time.
This is the thread where middle school kids come to vent.... Not much actual basketball knowledge in this thread.
And? Why is that all on McHale or why does that make him a bad coach? Did anyone expect us to beat the Thunder the first playoff run? The Suns have Dragic, Bledsoe, and Thomas and are barely hanging on the 8th seed..... Do you think ZOMFG Coach Hornacek is mediocre? McHale definitely got out-coached during the Blazers series, we also got out match up-ed due to lack of experience/depth at the 3 and 4 spot. It's not that simple.
A lot of people think that McHale's only contribution to the team is "give ball to Harden and move away". Anyone who has actually played organized basketball understands that having one great player is not enough to win as many games as we have. We have the 5th best record against .500 teams in the NBA. That doesn't happen by having one great player and making the offense tailor made for that one player. It does require coaching and game planning. If you think that teams are good because one player is carrying them through, then you're an idiot and you have no real basketball knowledge. We constantly complain about the personnel on this team; one night it's Bev, one night it's Dwight, one night it's Ariza. YET, we keep winning games in spite of that. I agree with the popular sentiment that we need to upgrade our roster to have more offensive play makers and perhaps a better backup center. If that is the popular sentiment, then it must also be popular sentiment that this roster is lacking in some key areas. YET, we keep winning games in spite of that. At some point, you have to give some credit to McHale. BTW, now this thread has decided to analyze 9 point runs and how these point to McHale's inability to coach. As if Pop has never faced a 9 point run, or Phil Jackson, or Steve Kerr, or ****ing John Wooden himself. Stupid thread is stupid.
dunno why this was bumped on a nice high scoring comeback win but mchale meme's are too much fun to pass up
The logic behind your reply explains everything away to a point where coaching doesn't matter. That's the only way you can explain Mchale as a coaching choice. His past experience as a coach was poor. He admittedly has poor x' and o's as confessed by his own mouth while ex players compared him to etch e sketch play drawi. So when defending him you have to basically say all coaches suck or coaching doesn't really matter or make general statements like every coach loses sometimes until you get to the point where hall of fame coaches can be compared to Kevin freakin Mchale. It's ridiculous.
Haha, exactly. Sadly I've seen some crazy posts elsewhere too, fortunately other parts of the forum aren't as aggregated as this one. McHale could basically win a championship and still wouldn't get respect in this thread. I know there's some times I've questioned a decision/play he's used, but he definitely knows more about basketball than anyone in this thread. I'm interested in seeing how this year goes, he's done pretty well considering the injuries and the lack of bench to start the season.
Bull****, even without Westbrook, Rockets could have any coach and still would have lost. Team was too young and inexperienced.
Context sucks for people that take an absolute position. There's a lot of stuff that happens that is completely out the hands/control of the head coach.
Lol, dude, the Rockets had Harden and who else a younger Parsons, Oh and Asik and a hurt Lin?? the Thunder got to the finals previously and still had Durant, Martin, Ibaka, an ineffective Perkins, Sefalosa, and an experienced Fisher. Martin was still pretty effective in that series as a bench player. Yes, young teams can win, but it's highly unlikely, especially considering that only Bev and Harden are still even on the team from that year. DMo and Jones weren't exactly playing like they are now and even got DNP's. So it's not like Houston was stacked with young usable talent (especially since everyone is basically gone). I'm pretty sure this year if Rockets / Thunder met and Westbrook was injured it'd be different and Houston could win. But that year as an 8th seed it was basically Harden vs OKC, and Harden didn't exactly have a stellar series. I'm also not saying McHale is the best ever, but I'm just saying Rockets were barely an 8th seed and unless Durant and Westbrook were out of the series Houston was expected to go home. Now last year if you want to talk about coaching mistakes, sure, but Houston was too outmatched against the Thunder.
That's true, but that is why I take a level headed approach of only blaming him for the things that are his fault. He is not the blame for everything. I just think we can do better. Anyway I don't want to be lumped in with a group of people who hate Kevin Mchale because I don't. Just don't think he is that good of a coach.
Everyone mostly agrees Mchale was out-coached last year but those same people seem to think it's irrational to want a different coach that doesn't make sense, lol.
Haha right, I think the one thing that still makes me really question the FO is that they signed him to that extension.. It's like why couldn't we at least see him get the team out of the first round first??? I mean unless something catastrophic happens, I don't see how they don't get out of the first round this year... And if McHale fails to do at least that, how can you keep on with him? I mean, yes there's a lot to it, and not just all on the coach, but it just seems from last two playoffs the team hasn't been ready (obviously Thunder were tough series regardless, but Blazers still frustrates me). I'm really hoping it goes better this year. But if not, how long till FO starts to question first round exits? It's like that's the norm lately for us, and it is starting to wear on everyone. I also don't get the impression that Les would fire him, if let's say he's first round exit this year and next... Unless Harden decides he's had enough or something.
McHale was telling Harden to miss all his jumpers, and Stotts was telling Aldridge and Lillard to hit everything from the parking lots McHale also told Beverley to get a 104 fever, so we'd need to give most of the minutes to Lin You've uncovered the deep dark secret of nba coaching