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Chris Paul critical of ref Lauren Holtkamp

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by BleedRocketsRed, Feb 6, 2015.

  1. XxTCNxX

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    I feel bad for Chris, hes going to get murdered by refs every game from here on out
     
  2. VBG

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    Oh please, CP3 b****es to refs more than anyone else in the NBA
     
  3. shawn786

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    The biggest flop-per in the game is also the biggest cry baby.

    Goes hand in hand.
     
  4. clos4life

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    CP is an absolute whiner. It would be great if the refs swallowed whistles more often.
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    Chris Paul definitely messed up. The politically correct statement should have been "HE doesn't belong". Then there would be no controversy. Chris Paul is obviously a sexist.
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    Honestly, I believe individuals who were "hurt" by Paul's comment are doing nothing more than hurting the female gender as a whole. This just adds more fuel to actual misogynists who claim that women are held up on a pedestal where they cannot be fairly criticized and this situation is proving that.
     
  7. fchowd0311

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    You missed a step between strike 2 and 3 where media falsely accuses Paul of being a sexist. You bet your ass if someone falsely accuses me of being misogynist or sexist I will defend my self and not back down.

    Noticing a trend here. Those on this board that are agreeing with the media criticism of him on this matter is warranted already had a preconceived hatred of Paul.

    I don't care for Paul one way or the other. I think he is a great pg who does flop but I'm not naive enough to think that there are players like him on every team and his flopping and "whining" is not going to sway me into believing the dude deserves the criticism he is being handed with by the sensationalist media.
     
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    Lol that would obviously still make them mad, probably madder. They want us using gender neutral pronouns only.
     
  9. A_3PO

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    Sexist or not, I'm very surprised CP3 made those comments. The guy should have known he was damaging himself instead of the ref. Right or wrong, he's become a poster boy.

    He will soon offer an apology to move beyond this.
     
  10. Zboy

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    Oh, we got a tough guy here!

    The media as in the NBA ref union that called him out on the twitter?

    #1) How would you know for sure that Paul was not being a sexist? You are not Chris Paul and you do not know what his intentions were. No one knows what his intentions were besides the man himself.

    #2) Like I said, he made matters worse by getting a NBAPA spokeswoman to do the dirty work for him.

    The correct way of handling the situation would have been for Chris Paul to directly address the media and everyone out there in a manner similar to this...

    "I apologize if my comments hurt anyone out there. I was addressing one single person and not any particular group. The same comments would have been made had it been a male referee." (Not the best apology because that comment should not have been mad e personal in the first place but at least it would clear the sexism thing up).

    There. That was not hard, was it?

    PS. Stay away from any profession involving PR. You will be a disaster.

    Precisely. He should have cleared this mess up himself and apologized ASAP.

    PS. You may work in any profession involving PR. You will do well.
     
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  11. Easy

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    People who say that calling this sexism means you can't ever criticize female refs really miss the point. This is not about the fact that he criticized a female ref but about HOW he did it and how he made it PERSONAL against her. Why is it so difficult to grasp this difference?

    He could have just said how he was pissed by the calls. He did NOT need to say that she did not belong. Most players or coaches when they complain about officiating, they do not point finger at a particular ref, but the whole crew in general, or just point to the particular call and not the particular ref who made the call.
     
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    There was a female referee in the past.. Non story
     
  13. Zboy

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    Just made this activity sheet for my toddler.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Aleron

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    It's said about players all the time, but the issue for Paul is her competence, not her gender.
     
  15. Aleron

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    In the San Antonio edition, replace Holtkamp with Joey
     
  16. iconoclastic

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    Paul is looking more and more like a midget Jon Jones.
     
  17. mfastx

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    I really don't see why this is a big deal. As much as I hate Chris Paul and the Clippers, she was terrible out there.

    If Chris Paul is sexist then he'd have said something about Violet Palmer wouldn't he? She has reffed many of his games.

    Obviously the comment itself was unwarranted, but I am shocked that people are trying to make it out to be a sexist thing.
     
  18. CometsWin

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    Jake O'Donnell AND Tim Donaghy? LOL
     
  19. Zboy

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    Yes. Made it slightly challenging.

    However, as long as you keep in mind that this is the Chris Paul edition, it should be pretty straight forward.
     
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  20. fchowd0311

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    When did I imply I was a tough guy? I would hope if someone falsely or prematurely accuses you of sexism, you would be willing to defend yourself, unless of course you are guilty. You seem very antagonistic over this matter. Obviously you have preconceived built up animosity towards Chris Paul and that preconceived bias is ruining your objectivity.

    Your point number 1 fails in basic logic and reason. The default position would be an individual is NOT something and in this case NOT sexist. Any evidence that points to the contrary would be used to support a positive claim that someone IS something but there is no evidence to the contrary in his statement unless you believe using a pronoun is sufficient evidence of sexism.

    I couldn't care less about being involved in PR. I hope my career is more valuable and worthwhile than PR. Public Relations is truth spinning. I'm just stating objective facts. I don't give a **** either way about Paul. I am frustrated with premature accusations based on conjecture as it has ruined many lives.

    By all means, fine Chris Paul because he criticized a ref rather bluntly, but sexism? No, I think not.
     
    #160 fchowd0311, Feb 8, 2015
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